[governance] enhanced consultations - further inputs

[Avri Doria]

hi,

Nothing supercilious about it.  And please do not accuse me of things.  I apologize if one liners are a problem but I tend to think in brief sentences.  Might be a deficiency of mine.  And I see no way my comment, any comments I made, stopping you or anyone else from having a discussion.

When I mentioned repeat ..., I meant that I would like to have all of my previous comments on the this topic entered back into the record for this round of the discussion.

e.g. especially the ones relating to not only focusing on just some of regional organizations but recommending that people put in the same effort that people put into COE to make if a viable regional organization for representing their regions intersts and for presenting solution paths others could discuss.


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On 3 Dec 2010, at 06:17, parminder wrote:

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> On Friday 03 December 2010 03:54 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> and we have come full circle.
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>> repeat ...
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>> a.
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> Avri, can you please allow people to discuss what they want to discuss on this list and keep your supercilious one liners out of it. They are rather irritating, thats all. Thanks. parminder 
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> ( Also request the co-coordinators to look into this.... this is like, two people discussing something, and someone comes in with a line ' there you go again....'. Irritating and irrelevant, isnt it.)
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>> On 3 Dec 2010, at 05:16, parminder wrote:
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>>> On Friday 03 December 2010 03:30 PM, Roland Perry wrote:
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>>>> In message <C91ECD16.14103%ian.peter at ianpeter.com>, at 16:36:38 on Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>>>>  writes 
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>>>>> Number one on my list here would be issues of transboundary jurisdiction. They are not handled well ? IGC has run workshops on this at the last few IGFs. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Further work needs to be done here.  I could list a few of the past anomalies but I think  most people here are aware of them. It?s a mess, and the country or a company resident in any country of the registrant, the registry, the registrar or the hosting organisation could all get involved in legal action against a site that offends the nation state of any of these. 
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>>>>> The process to be pursued to sort this out starts with the adoption of some universal principles IMHO. 
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>>>> Which is exactly what things like the CoE's Budapest Convention, or several of the OECD's initiatives are all about. 
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>>>> But they don't get much approval from folks around here, from what I can see. 
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>>> Dear Roland, 
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>>> At least I have mentioned it several times why it doesnt meet my approval (and that of most developing country actors) . Let me say it again - I and my country are not represented in CoE/ OECD initiatives. Do you think this is not a good enough reason? Does democracy and global democracy count for anything? 
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>>> On the other hand, the question I have asked so many times, that why should not initiatives similar to those that you mention, but where all countries are represented, 'get much approval from folks around here' remains unanswered. Can you try an answer to it.
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>>> This is exactly what is sought in IT for Change's submission for consultations on enhanced cooperation. 
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>>> Thanks
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>>> Parminder 
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