[governance] Dynamic Coallition on ICANN Accountability and International Conformity - IAIC

Eric Dierker cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net
Tue Sep 15 20:19:24 EDT 2009


I think Kuerbis did a fine job here regarding the xxx and accountability; http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2009/5/26/4200557.html
 
The only real accountability would be some type of individual/registrant Board members at ICANN.
 
Latest I heard there was to be an At-Large Board member.  http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/
 
But then I hear that Denise Michel is going to select them herself.
 
So while the IRP "imports international" norms (as in rules) ICANN shrinks back to Club mentality in accountability. Meanwhile this Coalition is filled with members from the same club.


--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] Dynamic Coallition on ICANN Accountability and International Conformity - IAIC
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Avri Doria" <avri at acm.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 10:08 PM


Hi Avri,

There are many legitimate reasons for delaying comments until the last moment.  In this particular case, those of us that follow accountability issues understand that the first real test of ICANN's current Independent Review Process comes next Monday 21 September when the .xxx dispute (the ICMregistry-versus-ICANN case filed on 6 June 2008) is heard by the International Centre for Dispute Resolution in NYC.  

My own view is that it makes little sense to amend the bylaws to create an Independent Review Tribunal as an accountability mechanism when we haven't even had a chance to analyze whether the current IRP works sufficiently or is somehow deficient. 

-- danny --


--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Dynamic Coallition on ICANN Accountability and International Conformity - IAIC
> To: "Governance/IGC List" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 5:51 PM
> hi,
> 
> i am planning to, ad it is a good idea.
> 
> but like many people,  i rarely get comments in befoe
> the last day.
> 
> thanks for the reminder. when i saw your note i had
> moment's panic thinking i had missed the deadline.
> 
> a.
> 
> 
> On 15 Sep 2009, at 18:08, Danny Younger wrote:
> 
> > Interesting.  ICANN puts up a public forum
> dealing with Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve
> Accountability and not a single member of this community
> posts any comments whatsoever.  Instead, community
> members tell us about plenary activities that are held that
> still don't result in any meaningful comments on
> accountability being put through directly to ICANN in a
> timely fashion.
> > 
> > If you really cared about ICANN Accountability one
> would think that you would be conveying your concerns
> directly to ICANN when the opportunity presented
> itself.  Comments may be sent to iic-proposed-bylaws at icann.org
> until 25 September.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [governance] Dynamic Coallition on ICANN
> Accountability and International Conformity - IAIC
> >> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 9:16 AM
> >> Dear Members,
> >> 
> >> As per the proceedings of the EuroDIG.org plenary
> no 3 on
> >> The Post-JPA
> >> Phase: towards a future Internet Governance Model,
> there
> >> has been
> >> discussion amongst the European Governments and
> >> participants about the
> >> role of ICANN and more accountability of it in
> terms of
> >> Internet
> >> Governance Forum. There has a need been identified
> for
> >> creation of a
> >> "Dynamic Coallition on ICANN Accountability and
> >> International
> >> Conformity - IAIC" (though proposed in its
> structure here
> >> more
> >> sensibly) at the IGF in order to deal with the
> ICANN
> >> related issues
> >> more strategically, tactically with a
> multistakeholder
> >> participation
> >> within the light of the Tunis Agenda or if not
> within this
> >> context but
> >> then realizing that  although ICANNs
> constitutional
> >> documents and
> >> by-laws require it to co-operate with relevant
> >> international
> >> organisations and to carry out its activities in
> conformity
> >> with
> >> relevant principles of international law and
> applicable
> >> international
> >> conventions and local law, there are no related
> formal
> >> accountability
> >> arrangements and this can be the first step to
> create this
> >> process.
> >> 
> >> IGF process needs to be kept separate but
> interconnected
> >> with ICANN
> >> (though this comment is still very vague).
> >> 
> >> Your suggestions on this proposal would be really
> useful
> >> and I am
> >> circulating this to other IG related lists for
> input and
> >> participation.
> >> 
> >> --Regards.
> >> --------------------------
> >> Fouad Bajwa
> >> @skBajwa
> >> Answering all your technology questions
> >> http://www.askbajwa.com
> >> http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATVDW1tDZzA
> >>
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