[governance] Halal Search Engine

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Sun Sep 6 09:44:56 EDT 2009


Freedom of expression becomes anathema if coupled with compulsion to
"listen". The greatest freedom of all is the freedom to be selective
about what one "hears". It's such a great freedom that I don't think
anyone bothers to write it down, and it's often forgotten in this type
of discussion. Without it "freedom of expression" becomes enslavement
of everyone else.
So everyone may have the right of free expression (which presumably
includes the right to categorise things as more or less "Halal", and
indeed the right to create search engines of all kinds), just so long
as everyone retains the right to withhold attention, and not to use
the search engine if that is their choice.
Deirdre

2009/9/6 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>:
> Thank you Ian. You are 100% right. It was not a single case. The distortion
> is general.
>
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Envoyé : dimanche 6 septembre 2009 06:52
> À : governance at lists.cpsr.org; Carlos A. Afonso
> Objet : Re: [governance] Halal Search Engine
>
> Doesn't sound much different to me to the Mammon search engine (aka Google)
> which includes in its search algorithms higher ratings for those who pay for
> certain types of advertising services though the same company.
>
> But as we get beyond names for identifying sites to a greater reliance on
> search results there is an issue here as regards truth in search results
> reporting. As the search engine becomes our primary means of identifying
> news or information on any given subject, to what degree should religious or
> political beliefs or monetary considerations of search engine owners play a
> part in the results reported?
>
> We are in danger of becoming like mainstream media here, where these
> distortions are common. I guess we all hoped for something better....
>
>
> On 6/09/09 9:33 AM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>
>> It seems some of us have suddenly discovered that intranets on the Net
>> are anathema, for whatever reason. I am probably dumb, cannot quite
>> grasp why this has popped up. It seems equivalent to prohibiting all
>> closed doors meetings anywhere. What is going on?
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> By the way, Siva, your apparent rejection of a "rights-based" rationale
> seems
>>> incoherent to me.
>>> On what basis are you challenging the right of a community to restrict
> itself
>>> if not on the basis of rights - of either individuals or groups?
>>>
>>> One of the reasons why I feel that the "rights-based approach" to
> Internet
>>> Governance is not a good idea...
>>>
>>> If "rights" are not a good idea, what is?
>>>
>>>
>>
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