FW: [governance] What happened?

[Eric Dierker]

I think you are dancing a little around the facts.  The UN will not and does not give concrete due process and prior public clarity to their "enforcement".  While they talk and have Armed Forces that actually take life and liberty they have never stated apriori what conduct is proscribed.
There is no protocal or public manual for the restriction of corporal force.  There is no protocal or public list of activities prohibited at their events.  Even at the UN building in NY there is no do and don't list for clarity.
 
Lincoln said to the effect: obedience of the law is the greatest freedom -- The UN says "only we know the law so watch out!"
 

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:


From: Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com>
Subject: Re: FW: [governance] What happened?
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 6:42 PM


On 11/17/2009 02:39 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> Yes, Karl, this is part of the rules of any UN event

Where are they written down and what are the limits on country objections to things?  Could, perhaps, a country call for the ejection of people, like you our me, from the IGF meetings?  Might a country require a person to cease wearing a button (like "Free Elbonia now!")? What about a laptop with a similar message pasted onto the back of its screen?

I am concerned here about the range and limits to these "rules".

To many of us the prime issue of governance is often more about the restraint of power and authority than about any particular substantive issue.  These events so far make me uneasy that the basic issue of limits on authority are, as they so often are, not addressed ... until too late.

        --karl--
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