[governance] What happened? Moral & ethical Commercialization of ???

Eric Dierker cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net
Mon Nov 16 12:37:03 EST 2009


Are human rights for sale?  Is Internet Governance for Sale?

In fact most people working hard and with reasonable conscience get paid by someone to do such work.  So in essence Rights and Governance are for sale. Should we care if someone encroaches into this forum to sell a product to further their agenda for Rights and Governance?
 
There are a few of us that do not make this an economically influenced behavior. Jeff, myself and Karl come to mind.  However even they are "in the biz" so to speak.  Milton and Ginger survive off the "grants" "endowments" and various types of fund raising through publications.  Some here are paid by Orgs such as ICANN and the UN or a NIC or international do gooders group.
 
Is not the poster and commercializing from a more grass roots level the same thing?  Is not hawking and promoting tangible goods in order to provide funding for causes the same as working for a University or Foundation -- that raises the money through huge machines and established wealth.  
 
Certainly it is wrong to condone the paid for parry and party over to the "Neema" (sic) Bay, while accepting our brothers misfortune to raise money the old fashion way by selling something, that also raises awareness, and then condemning it.
 
I am fortunate enough to have spent some time in an Academy and earned a degree equivalent in Public Safety - common as "security". My government paid, so as to have "civilians" capable of rendering deniable criticism.  Please do not blame or elevate the hardworking flatfooted blue collar security persons to find reason or justification for actions. They are soldiers and not commanders - no one got hurt and safety was maintained.
 
I am convinced that mega-Corps, Universities and Mega-Govs spend my money to promote their Ideas. I am equally convinced that in finding respectful interface for diversity we must also respect divergent means of funding. We should be tolerant and try to find ways to incorporate the funding into the message to find a higher transparency and yet preserve purity and altruism.
 
 

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:


From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
Subject: Re: [governance] What happened?
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Cc: "Ronald Deibert" <r.deibert at utoronto.ca>
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 5:08 PM


On 16/11/2009, at 4:21 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:

> On 16/11/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronald Deibert wrote:
> 
>> This contains a number of inaccuracies that need to be corrected.  We were told to remove the poster not because it was advertising anything but because of the reference to China.
> 
> Tonight there is another book launch, for GISWatch 2009: http://www.giswatch.org/gisw2009/GISW2009.html.  Hopefully, a poster will be erected there too.  We will see if it is taken down.

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