[governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A New]

Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org
Mon Nov 2 22:52:25 EST 2009


Dear Siavash and all,

You are right. The Japanese case is not by any means a model
to be followed by others. Each ccTLD has its own situation and
while we/they can exchange best practices, there should not be
one uniform way. In the case of Japan, ccTLD has been in the
private sector, and Government has little say in reality.
This time, we tried a kind of "multi-stakeholder" where government
participate, as "observer" for the selection itself. We are tasked
to be open, fair, and transparent.

In the case of IDN ccTLD, it is true that the government has
the final say to select or endorse who will be the registry,
before ICANN approves it to follow the standard IANA delegation
process. That is, in my shallow understanding, even the government
says  "this is the registry" they need, in theory, to prove that the
consensus is there among local Internet community.

Like ccTLD situation, the understanding and actions of
governments around Internet issues are also very different
and diverse globally, some are more democratic and
others are not at all. So depending on that situation
things vary a lot I understand.

izumi

2009/11/3 Siavash Shahshahani <shahshah at irnic.ir>:
> Izumi, Milton,
> Encouraging competition is a noble cause, but before we overdo
> congratulating the Japanese initiative and fooling ourselves into
> imagining that this model will be emulated necessarily with benign intent,
> let us take a realistic look at what is going to happen. Fast track rules
> give de facto authority to governments to designate the operating
> registry. Looking at the list of likely fast track candidates, it is
> apparent that in most cases the registry is a govt monopoly and the govt
> will continue to exercise its 'sovereign right' by designating either a
> govt agency or a subservient organization. In the few cases where the
> incumbent is an  independent entity and the govt has not been able to
> re-delegate on account of the good work of the registry and its support by
> the community, this will give the govt a golden opportunity to exercise
> arbitrary authority (not the Japanese model). And let us not forget that
> much of the real work that made IDN possible was carried out by these
> incumbent registries. It is time their efforts are acknowledged and given
> due weight in the selection.
> Siavash
>
>> Thanks Milton,
>>
>> As you can imagine, the process is not an easy one - and will continue
>> to be so. One camp wants for competition, another values consistency.
>>
>> As far as I know, no other ccTLD at this point plans to introduce
>> plural registry for the new IDN - all existing registry will also run
>> the IDN.  But, I heard that in China, a new registry is being created,
>> for the new gTLD, but also they might run for city TLDs such as
>> Beijing or Shanghai - the government rep lady said in Sydney said that
>> want to introduce competition.
>>
>> izumi
>>
>> 2009/11/2 Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:
>>> This is really great, Izumi. I spoke with someone from JPRS at the Seoul
>>> meeting and she hinted that Japan would take a more open and competitive
>>> approach to the IDN fast track. This is a model policy that I wish other
>>> countries would follow. Let us know how it works out.
>>>
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