[governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A New]

Siavash Shahshahani shahshah at irnic.ir
Mon Nov 2 15:11:17 EST 2009


Izumi, Milton,
Encouraging competition is a noble cause, but before we overdo
congratulating the Japanese initiative and fooling ourselves into
imagining that this model will be emulated necessarily with benign intent,
let us take a realistic look at what is going to happen. Fast track rules
give de facto authority to governments to designate the operating
registry. Looking at the list of likely fast track candidates, it is
apparent that in most cases the registry is a govt monopoly and the govt
will continue to exercise its 'sovereign right' by designating either a
govt agency or a subservient organization. In the few cases where the
incumbent is an  independent entity and the govt has not been able to
re-delegate on account of the good work of the registry and its support by
the community, this will give the govt a golden opportunity to exercise
arbitrary authority (not the Japanese model). And let us not forget that
much of the real work that made IDN possible was carried out by these
incumbent registries. It is time their efforts are acknowledged and given
due weight in the selection.
Siavash

> Thanks Milton,
>
> As you can imagine, the process is not an easy one - and will continue
> to be so. One camp wants for competition, another values consistency.
>
> As far as I know, no other ccTLD at this point plans to introduce
> plural registry for the new IDN - all existing registry will also run
> the IDN.  But, I heard that in China, a new registry is being created,
> for the new gTLD, but also they might run for city TLDs such as
> Beijing or Shanghai - the government rep lady said in Sydney said that
> want to introduce competition.
>
> izumi
>
> 2009/11/2 Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:
>> This is really great, Izumi. I spoke with someone from JPRS at the Seoul
>> meeting and she hinted that Japan would take a more open and competitive
>> approach to the IDN fast track. This is a model policy that I wish other
>> countries would follow. Let us know how it works out.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Izumi
>>> AIZU
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:44 AM
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; David Goldstein
>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A
>>> New
>>> Era
>>>
>>> We are working to introduce a competitive bidding for the registry of
>>> new IDN ccTLD, dot-Nippoin. The uncumbent is allowed to bid for, but
>>> whole idea is to create choice and
>>> competition among, even ccTLDs. It's not an easy task, to make it
>>> open, fair, balanced.
>>> Hence we started Japan Internet Domain Name Council, with bit of
>>> multi-stakeholder
>>> framework, mainly composed of Internet industry associations (four of
>>> them together),
>>> with Consumer body, and the Government sits as "observer".
>>>
>>> izumi
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/11/1, David Goldstein <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au>:
>>> > Of course, those on this list wouldn't want to get the media hyping
>>> this
>>> > event in the way of what was actually claimed.
>>> >
>>> > From the ICANN news release:
>>> > "The coming introduction of non-Latin characters represents the
>>> biggest
>>> > technical change to the Internet since it was created four decades
>>> > ago," said ICANN chairman Peter Dengate Thrush.
>>> >
>>> > Giving people whose language is not Latin-based the ability to use
>>> domain
>>> > names is very significant. Eventually it will probably benefit every
>>> > language that includes a character in addition to A to Z, 0 to 9 and
>>> a
>>> dash.
>>> >
>>> > I guess many of those whose languages are Latin-based can't think
>>> outside
>>> > the square and appreciate this.
>>> >
>>> > Whether you like ICANN or not, there was a lot of work done to ensure
>>> IDNs
>>> > were safe and secure to use. But then, many on this list are loathe
>>> to
>>> admit
>>> > such a thing.
>>> >
>>> > Well, I guess bitterness prevails...
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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