[governance] JPA
Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
froomkin at law.miami.edu
Wed May 27 11:07:27 EDT 2009
No, it is not that difficult to craft a system to allow non-citizens to
have an equal right of action. But this does mean the non-citizen must go
into the courts of that nation, which has linguistic, geographic and
financial implications. I submit that is still better than reinventing
the wheel, with all the uncertainty (and expense) that implies.
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> Hi Michael, this sounds nice but how do we translate national due process to
> transnatinal policy making? You are not suggesting to restrict the rights to
> appeal or to contest an action to the citizens of the country that hosts
> ICANN, are you?
>
> jeanette
>
> Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
>> This is why tying to a nation's law (as opposed to 'international law') of
>> administrative makes sense: it's at the national level that we have well
>> worked-out ideas of due process and basic rights to be heard.
>>
>> International law, which is still primarily about states and international
>> organizations, does not have a body of jurisprudence that speaks to those
>> issues.
>>
>> The US APA is one model; Canada has a different on. The UK's model of
>> administrative review, on the other hand, is relatively feeble.
>>
>> Several countries have a strong tradition, and well worked-out rules,
>> about procedural regularity, that is rules which police fairness,
>> conflicts of interest, the right to be heard, without being too
>> heavy-handed in their substantive review. Those are good models, they
>> took decades to develop, and one should be adopted rather than reinvented
>> from the ground up.
>>
>> On Wed, 27 May 2009, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>
>> > > I also think that suggesting an 'international judidical body' for
>> > > adjudication CIR/ related IG issues as a more urgent step would be
>> > > useful, since a full treaty process could take long time. The model
>> > > and legal basis for such a judicial or quasi- judicial body can be
>> > > discussed. ,
>> >
>> > Same issue as my last message.
>> > What rules/law does this quasi-judicial body apply? Without that, it's
>> > useless second-guess or a
>> > dangerous political bypass mechanism.
>> > We've tried to skip that stage for 10- years and it hasn't worked. Let's
>> > get down to it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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