[governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement re:

Fri Mar 27 10:56:33 EDT 2009

I dont mind collecting them off list but I think people WILL send them to the list anyway, and that we shouldn't undermine an important collective output simply because Jeanette doesn't want to spend a few seconds deleting emails.
So for those of you who are paying close attention, sure, send endorsements to me directly. 
--MM
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From: Ian Peter [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:30 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Jeanette Hofmann'
Subject: RE: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement re:

True - Milton, are you happy to collect individual signatories off list? -
in which case this topic can be for amendments or for disagreement with IGC
signing on.

Ian Peter
PO Box 429
Bangalow NSW 2479
Australia
Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
www.ianpeter.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
> Sent: 27 March 2009 06:23
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter
> Cc: 'Lee W McKnight'
> Subject: Re: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement re:
>
> Do we really need to handle this via the mailing list? It creates a lot
> of traffic...
> jeanette
>
> Ian Peter wrote:
> > That seems to be the best way forward.
> >
> > So if you want to be individually listed, just sign up here (many others
> > have) Include your country and organizational affiliation.
> >
> > And if you have strong concerns list them here as well, that would
> determine
> > whether IGC as such is a signatory or not
> >
> > Ian Peter
> > PO Box 429
> > Bangalow NSW 2479
> > Australia
> > Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
> > www.ianpeter.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lee W McKnight [mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu]
> >> Sent: 27 March 2009 03:53
> >> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki
> >> Subject: RE: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement
> re:
> >>
> >> I agree with Meryem's suggested approach, for maximum impact on ICANN's
> >> conisderation of this, both the collective of IGC member and folks in
> >> their individual capacities and affiliations should be listed - with
> their
> >> consent of course.
> >>
> >> (sign me up too)
> >>
> >> Lee
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: Meryem Marzouki [marzouki at ras.eu.org]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:45 AM
> >> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> >> Subject: Re: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement
> re:
> >>
> >> Both approaches are not mutually exclusive. The text may list
> >> signatures (distinguishing organizational/entities and individual
> >> signatures) and, among the entities signatures, have the IGC as a
> >> whole if there is consensus on this.
> >> Obviously, IGC members cannot be individually listed unless they
> >> explicitely sign up.
> >> Meryem
> >>
> >> Le 25 mars 09 à 22:48, Milton L Mueller a écrit :
> >>
> >>> That is great, Ian, but in some ways it's better to have a lot of
> >>> names on a list, especially if countries of residence and
> >>> organizational affiliation are shown.
> >>> Perhaps it can be a caucus statement and we could just list the
> >>> caucus members?
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: Ian Peter [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:39 PM
> >>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Milton L Mueller
> >>> Subject: RE: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC
> >>> statement re: ICANN NCSG
> >>>
> >>> Hi Milton, thanks for getting this underway.
> >>>
> >>> I’ll leave detailed comment to others, but unless there is strong
> >>> disagreement I can’t see why this can’t be a statement from the
> >>> Caucus as a whole, rather than just members who sign on. That would
> >>> change some of the wording at the top to simply “The Internet
> >>> Governance Caucus wishes to express our support” (with perhaps a
> >>> phrase on who the Caucus is)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyway sign me up!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ian Peter
> >>>
> >>> PO Box 429
> >>>
> >>> Bangalow NSW 2479
> >>>
> >>> Australia
> >>>
> >>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
> >>>
> >>> www.ianpeter.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu]
> >>> Sent: 26 March 2009 03:14
> >>> To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'
> >>> Subject: [governance] Proposed text for a sign-on or IGC statement
> >>> re: ICANN NCSG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The organizations and individuals listed below are members of and
> >>> participants in the civil society Internet Governance Caucus. We
> >>> wish to express our support for version 6.0 of the Noncommercial
> >>> Stakeholders Group (NCSG) charter developed by the Noncommercial
> >>> Users Constituency. While there may still be room for minor
> >>> improvements, we believe that the basic principles on which the
> >>> charter is founded provide the fairest and most effective basis for
> >>> civil society representation in ICANN’s Generic Names Supporting
> >>> Organization.
> >>>
> >>> We specifically support the proposal because:
> >>>  * It was developed transparently and with many opportunities for
> >>> input by relevant ICANN participants;
> >>>  * It makes it easy to form constituencies or affinity groups, but
> >>> avoids fragmentation of noncommercial stakeholders into independent
> >>> constituencies with separate mailing lists, administrative
> >>> structures and representatives;
> >>>  * It permits individual membership in the NCSG and does not
> >>> require individuals to fit themselves into arbitrarily-defined
> >>> categories that may not correspond to their interests and needs;
> >>>  * It fosters representation of minority viewpoints in consensus-
> >>> based Working Groups, but does not rigidly assign votes to small
> >>> factions, instead offering them a chance to build consensus
> >>>
> >>> We also note that the alternative charter proposal seems designed
> >>> to give a specific faction guaranteed Council seats and does not
> >>> foster global, geographically diverse representation.
> >>>
> >>> We appreciate ICANN’s effort to make its GNSO more representative
> >>> and urge you to ratify and accept the NCSG charter.
> >>>
> >>> Signed,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Etc.
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