[governance] ICANN might name former DHS cybersecurity boss

[Eric Dierker]

Dare I say Jefsey that your language here indicates that you believe it is either regulated or anarchy or nothing. "but a transition from a set of constraints to  open world.""  I assume you are double meaning the concept of "open world". Combining the Vietnam model of all gov. contracts = open source, with a notion of no restrictions.
 
But I have known and try to follow you since about 2000 and I read into this that you are proposing that our only real restrictions be compatibility in applications on a technical level.
 
Are you suggesting that the only real security is based upon stability through adaptation in orderly evolution?

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, JFC Morfin <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:


From: JFC Morfin <jefsey at jefsey.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] ICANN might name former DHS cybersecurity boss
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Roland Perry" <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:01 PM


Yes; The real issue is when the "regs" (as most of them) apply to a restricted vision of the Internet architecture that some try to impose for a lot of good reasons, and users' communities and applications may want to take a full advantage from the real Internet as it is, not as some which or think it is. 

This is the difficult part, because it is not a transition from a technology to another one, but a transition from a set of constraints to  open world. This is precisely what is currently happening at the IETF/WG-IDNABIS. Respecting the Charter leads to a complete evolution of the Internet usage, governance, adminance (aministrative and technical governance), services and economy. This is why a few try to curb usage through architectural tricks, while others try to document what the Internet really is and propose a progressive adaptation. 

This is also happening while we observe a growing trend from passive content to active content. This blurs many things. Moreover it permits to consider the happening of the new communication semantic stratum. With new POV on many things.
jfc


2009/6/27 Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>

In message <159471.65531.qm at web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, at 15:40:41 on Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Eric Dierker <cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net> writes



So it is safe to say that in your work helping others to navigate around
the regulations caused maze of doing business your prefer the straight
forward technique of total compliance with the regs rather avoidance?

I don't usually help people "work around" the regs. My primary aim is
to make sure the regs which are put in place are the right ones; and once in place that they are used as effectively as possible to hinder the bad guys.  But I do spend quite some time telling people why certain regulations don't apply[1] to them, were never intended to apply to them; which isn't quite the same as avoiding the regs.

[1] Often manifested by authorities claiming powers they don't actually have, or ignoring safeguards that should have inhibited them.



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Roland Perry
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