[governance] Should IGF negotiate recommendations? (Re: IGC

[Lee W McKnight]

Hi,

Sorry for disappearing for a while, I must do so again in a minute. 

But on recommendations, some may recall a workshop I chaired at last IGF voting  (a light-hearted, informal, 'sense of the room' show of hands) to recommend the US end the JPA.

There was more laughter than angst at the time; though I heard afterward some were seriously upset with me that the show of hands could be misinterpreted as an official recommendation 'of the IGF' which of course it was not. 

I realize my deliberate breach of preceived protocol was provocative; which was my intent.  

To make the point that nothing in the WSIS texts prevents dynamic coalitions or workshops 'at' the IGF from either making or negotiating recommendations - now.   

So my worry is if we get the wording wrong in a statement we may inadvertently give up that capacity for...well I don't know, but we may get nothing.

Recall Bertrand's points:

2) During the Hyderabad meeting last year, an interesting distinction was made between "recommendations by the IGF" and "recommendations at the IGF". This would mean that groups of actors, including Dynamic Coalitions for instance but also ad hoc gatherings after a workshop, could take the opportunity of an IGF meeting to prepare recommendations that they would make public at the IGF and invite other actors to join. This is a truly multi-stakeholder and bottom-up approach.

3) In such an approach, some process could be envisaged for the IGF to record such recommendations in a specific rubric, like the IGF site already incorporates the reports of the workshops. In the simplest form, the reports themselves can already contain such recommendations

Lee again: I know we have no time, but I agree with Bertrand that a process for recording and disseminating recommendations is more of an issue than whether or not recommendations may somehow emanate from the IGF process - or be made, or negotiated; since we know they can, and have already; and might again in Egypt. 

Lee 

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From: McTim [dogwallah at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:49 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Parminder
Subject: Re: [governance] Should IGF negotiate recommendations? (Re: IGC

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Parminder<parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>
> Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>>
>> Sorry Parminder but it is not a good move to isolate Bill in this
>> discussion.
>
> I am not trying to isolate anyone. I am asking for his substantive views,
> and trying to do the same discussion on recs  - why they may need to be made
> and what dangers if any, all the pros and the cons - that his suggested
> 'text' wants the wider community to do. Somehow it is never the right time
> to do such discussions - when we are preparing statements it is not the
> right time, and at other times it isnt the right time either.
>
>
>> Bill is right, we know from earlier discussions on the matter of
>> recommendations that lots of (otherwise) actively participating members of
>> this caucus are skeptical or opposed to IGF recommendations.

Correct, there are others  besides me.

>
> Who are these. McTim used be one,

I still am.  Please speak for yourself only.

 but he agrees to the present compromise
> text.

I believe it "will suffer", but can live with "may suffer", as it is
not a significant difference to me.

>IF you can is suggest other names I can try to engage with them.

It's not your job to do this.  The fact is there is opposition to your
views, accept that and let us move fwd please.


--
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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