[governance] Regarding Honduras - The other side of the story!

Tue Jul 7 10:13:23 EDT 2009

Excellent question and demand for censorship.

What does Internet governance say to such demands?  Does it say "Yes my netiquette bans all side talk to do with developing governing models"?  I think this is a portrait of why it must not. Information super highways topple governments and prevoke riots and death -- but that has nothing to do with governance? What Ostrich thinking -- reminiscent of bookburning.

What my friends from Africa and the middle east have taught me is clear.  Our discussions and our debate over our role, tells them we give a good damn. It shows that the Internet is not just full of hot air windbags that pontithicate, but has some responsible adults that take responsibility for their actions on the net and their innactions. We incite, but with attitudes like this one we do not take responsibility to help form the new as we have helped tear down the old.

--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Jean-Louis FULLSACK <jlfullsack at orange.fr> wrote:

From: Jean-Louis FULLSACK <jlfullsack at orange.fr>
Subject: re: [governance] Regarding Honduras - The other side of the story!
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Karl E. Peters" <kpeters at tldainc.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:23 AM

What, by the hell, has this pamphlet to deal with Internet govenance ? 

Are the webmaster and list moderator both sleeping or collusive ?

Ban this from our List !

Jean-Louis Fullsack

> Message du 04/07/09 21:11
> De : "Karl E. Peters" 
> A : governance at lists.cpsr.org
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> Objet : [governance] Regarding Honduras - The other side of the story!
> 
> 
> All international observers,
> Here below, please find a position paper in both Spanish and
> English from the Honduran people in explanation of what has transpired
> there. It was sent to me yesterday in hopes I could give it
> international exposure.
> Please read the statement below for a perspective missed by the
> mainstream media, the truth. If you do not read Spanish, just skip down
> a little and read the English translation. THANK YOU!!!
> 
> SPANISH
> 
> > Pronunciamiento Civico a la Comunidad Internacional
> > Pronunciamiento cívico a la comunidad internacional en general y a los cristianos en particular
> > Como es sabido, al igual que la mayoría de sus vecinos latinoamericanos, Honduras sufre de grave subdesarrollo en lo económico, social, educativo, cultural y político. No obstante, en los últimos días este pequeño y desfavorecido país ha demostrado increíble fortaleza digna de gran elogio.
> > En un hecho sin precedentes, el Congreso Nacional, el Tribunal Supremo, el Fiscal General, el Procurador General de la República, y la Comisión Nacional de Derechos Humanos por unanimidad actuaron en defensa de la Constitución de la República en contra de una amenaza real y presente.
> > Como resultado de su negativa a acatar las normas y reglamentos establecidos en la Constitución, Manuel Zelaya fue legalmente removido como Presidente de la República de Honduras el 28 de junio de 2009.
> > La remoción del Presidente Manuel Zelaya no puede ser llamada “golpe de Estado” pues no cumple con dos características fundamentales de este fenómeno político: La primera característica es la toma del poder por
> > los militares y la segunda, la ruptura del imperio de la ley. Las medidas adoptadas por las Fuerzas Armadas de Honduras se basan en una orden judicial y su finalidad era restablecer el imperio de la ley, que estaba siendo violado constantemente por el Ex-Presidente Zelaya. Incluso las iglesias católica y evangélica en vano instaron previamente al ex Presidente Zelaya a caminar en el camino de la razón y que desistiera de sus actividades ilegales. Después de la intervención de las Fuerzas Armadas, la Constitución sigue en vigor y se respeta plenamente por la sucesión del poder establecido por la Carta Magna, que nombró a un nuevo Presidente Constitucional.
> > Lamentablemente, este valiente acto de los organismos gubernamentales, en defensa de la verdadera democracia y realizado en un espíritu de unidad y el patriotismo, no ha sido bien recibido por la comunidad internacional. Todo lo contrario es cierto. La OEA, las Naciones Unidas e incluso los Estados Unidos han presionado a esta pequeña nación hasta el punto de amenazar con sanciones y con aislamiento total. Hasta el momento de escribir esto, Honduras ha sido categóricamente denunciada por ellos sin el beneficio de una investigación objetiva de los acontecimientos que finalmente condujeron a sus ciudadanos a deponer a su Presidente.
> > Hay días difíciles por delante para los hondureños; días cuando su verdadera convicción sobre la democracia estará a prueba. Muchos comienzan a dudar de que se ha hecho lo
> > correcto. Otros se inclinarán ante la terrible presión de la comunidad internacional. Por último, otros se verán sacudidos por algún ataque en contra de la convicción moral de su decisión. Quién sabe si tal vez Chávez cumplirá su amenaza de invadir el país. ¡Pocos eran conscientes hasta ahora de cuán lejos han llegado los tentáculos del nuevo totalitarismo del siglo 21!
> > Dios, que quita y pone reyes, no ignora el dilema que enfrenta Honduras. Él está allí, esperando que Su pueblo le clame con fe intensa y sincera. Oremos para que las nuevas autoridades de Honduras hallen gracia ante el resto de la comunidad internacional. Oremos que este nuevo gobierno se mantenga firme en su determinación de completar lo que ha comenzado; y oremos que la familia hondureña permanezca unida.
> > Nosotros como pueblo cristiano estamos pidiendo a la OEA y a la ONU que escuchen a nuestro Congreso, nuestra Corte Suprema de Justicia, nuestro nuevo Presidente, nuestras organizaciones civiles, y a nuestras Iglesias, a fin de comprender mejor lo que está sucediendo en Honduras, antes de pasar juicio sobre los acontecimientos de este último fin de semana.
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> 
> ENGLISH
> 
> CITIZEN’S POSITION STATEMENT – www.enpazylibertad.org
> Like most of her Latin American neighbors, Honduras suffers from
> severe underdevelopment in the economic, social, educational, cultural,
> and political arenas. Notwithstanding, in recent days this small and
> disadvantaged country has shown incredible fortitude worthy of great
> praise.
> In an unprecedented event, the National Congress, the Supreme
> Court, the Attorney General, the Solicitor General’s office, and the
> National Commission on Human Rights unanimously acted in defense of the
> Constitution of the Republic against a real and present threat.
> As a result of his refusal to abide by the rules and regulations as
> set forth in the Constitution, Manuel Zelaya was legally removed as
> President of the Republic of Honduras on June 28, 2009.
> The removal of President Manuel Zelaya cannot be called as a
> “coup d’état,” because it does not comply with two fundamental
> characteristics of this political phenomenon: The first characteristic
> is the seizure of power by the military and the second the breakdown of
> rule of law. The action taken by the Armed Forces of Honduras was based
> on a court order and its purpose was to restore the rule of law, which
> was being consistently violated by the President Zelaya. Even the
> Catholic and Evangelical churches previously urged former President
> Zelaya to walk on the path of reason and to desist from his illegal
> activities to no avail. After the intervention of the Armed Forces, the
> Constitution is still in force and is being fully respected by the
> succession of power established by the Magna Carta, which appointed a
> new Constitutional President.
> Unfortunately, this courageous act by governmental agencies, in
> defense of true democracy and done in a spirit of unity and
> patriotism,20has not been well received by the international
> community.  Quite the opposite is true.  The OAS, the UN and even the
> United States have pressured this small nation to the point of
> threatening sanctions and total isolation. Up to the time of this
> writing, Honduras has been categorically denounced by them without the
> benefit of an objective investigation of the events that ultimately led
> to its citizens deposing its President.
> There are tough days ahead for Hondurans; days where their true
> convictions on democracy will be sorely tried.  Many will begin to
> doubt that the right thing has been done; others will bow before the
> terrible pressure of the International community.  Still others will be
> shaken by the attack against the moral conviction of their decision. 
> Who knows, maybe Chavez will make good on his threat to invade the
> country?  Few were aware until now of how pervasive are the tentacles
> of the New Totalitarianism in the 21st century!
> God, who raises and casts down kings, is not unaware of the dilemma
> facing Honduras.  He is there, waiting for His people to cry out to him
> with intense, sincere faith.  Let us pray that the new authorities in
> Honduras find grace before the rest of the world community, that they
> remain firm in their resolve to complete what they have started and for
> the Honduran family to remain united.
> We are praying, but we also ask that you share this letter with as
> many people possible and advocate for our nation Honduras before your
> church congregation, your local radio and news Media, your local Chamber
> of Commerce, with your State Governor, your State Representative, your
> State Senator, and your President.
> We as a people are asking that OAS and the UN listen to our
> Congress, our Supreme Court, our new President, our civic organizations,
> and our Churches in order to better understand what is happening in
> Honduras before passing judgment on the events of this last weekend.
> 
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