[governance] IGC on its list

[Ian Peter]

Hi Karl,

Yes, this list can tend to become ICANN-obsessed, and to a lesser degree
this is also true of IGF. I agree this is not a good thing either for this
list or for a sensible discussion of internet governance and where it should
head.

But I think the reality we face is that it is far easier to criticise an
incumbent organisation with all its faults than to take a broader view of
internet governance and gain support and understanding for the larger scale
governance issues the Internet is going to face. Yes, it's a problem, but
how we move to the bigger picture escapes me at this point of time...




On 7/07/09 12:22 AM, "kpeters at tldainc.org" <kpeters at tldainc.org> wrote:

>       If I might add one further question to the very interesting
> questions of Mr. Drake;
> 
>       To what extent does this forum restrict itself to the internet
> as it relatres to ICANN and the US DoC to resolve internet policies
> and does it in fact have the freedom to discuss the real and dynamic
> internet (for better or worse) making ICANN less and less relevant on
> the international scene? Every time I have mentioned internet activity
> outside of ICANN, this list, as it is very good at doing, completely
> ignores the subject as if not seeing it will make it not exist. Is
> this an IGF policy? Is your future tied exclusively to ICANN? Clear
> answers to these questions will tell a lot more about your future than
> answers to all the other questions combined.
>       Based on past experience, I expect dumb silence to this question
> but would welcome thought out response!
> 
> -Karl E. Peters
> kpeters at tldainc.org
> 
> Quoting William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Skimming and deleting over morning coffee, a random thought occurs: is
>> this still the listserv of the IGC?  It hasn't been obvious of late.
>> It's been quite awhile since there much traffic from people who are in
>> the IGC discussing the sort of concerns for which we established the
>> list seven years ago, and it's not like there are no live issues out
>> there.  For example, do we not intend to submit a group statement on
>> the IGF review by the July 15 deadline?  We had some preliminary
>> discussion on this in May and people indicated a preference for some
>> focused dialogue leading to a statement of more than a couple
>> paragraphs outlining why the caucus favors renewal.  Given the rather
>> variable inputs the UN and the IGF secretariat (for the Sharm
>> synthesis paper) will be receiving from member governments, one would
>> think this is an important thing to do.
>> 
>> Comments on the review process so far are at
>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/component/chronocontact/?chronoformn
>> ame=FormalConsult032009ListView
>> (Great URL, I love the website ;-)
>> 
>> The questions we are asked to address are:
>> 
>> 1. To what extent has the IGF addressed the mandate set out for it in
>> the Tunis Agenda?
>> 2. To what extent has the IGF embodied the WSIS principles?
>> 3. What has the impact of the IGF been in direct or indirect terms?
>> Has it impacted you or your stakeholder group/institution/government?
>> Has it acted as a catalyst for change?
>> 4. How effective are IGF processes in addressing the tasks set out for
>> it, including the functioning of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group
>> (MAG), Secretariat and open consultations?
>> 5. Is it desirable to continue the IGF past its initial five-year
>> mandate, and why/why not?
>> 6. If the continuation of the Forum is recommended, what improvements
>> would you suggest in terms of its working methods, functioning and
>> processes?
>> 7. Do you have any other comments?
>> 
>> Surely we can manage answers to these in the next ten days, no?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> ***********************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> Senior Associate
>> Centre for International Governance
>> Graduate Institute of International and
>>   Development Studies
>> Geneva, Switzerland
>> william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
>> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
>> ***********************************************************
> 
> 
> 
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