[governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members

Fri Dec 11 10:23:11 EST 2009

Hello Eric Dierker,

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Eric Dierker
<cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Please clarify.  An individual that makes a living in the business
> community, should be no different than an individual that makes a living in
> the clergy.
>

As long as the individuality is maintained, it doesn't really matter if the
individual makes his living from business or government. Individuals who are
employed in a business corporation or Government, as long as they become
part of IGC as individuals, in their individual capacity,  are not to be
considered as 'representatives' or 'nominees' from business or government.

It becomes a problem when business establishments start nominating their
Lawyers or  Employees to represent their business / government in the
forum.In that case they would classify as members from the business or
government stakeholder group.

> I do not believe that when Einstein took a seat as a member of a corporate
> board he lost intelligence.  I do not feel less commited to God when I write
> a policy for a multinational corporation.
>
> But I agree with anti-capture measures.
>

'Capture' was the underlying concern expressed in my message. The idea is to
be cautious of such possibilities of a full or partial capture.

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy

>
>
> --- On *Fri, 12/11/09, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> Cc: "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:52 PM
>
>
> Hello Ian,
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com<http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ian.peter@ianpeter.com>>
> wrote:
> > Hi Fouad,
> >
> > That's as regards membership. Of course Nomcoms and electors within our
> > membership may choose to take into account such factors as those you
> raise
> > in determining suitability for office. That's entirely appropriate and
> has
> > happened in the past.
>
> If the Caucus does not discriminate between individuals as members,
> how would NomCom discriminate between candidates as candidates from a
> business background / government background etc?  If there is no
> discrimination on the membership level, there can't be any
> discrimination at any level.
>
> >
> > I know others see it differently, but I personally don't have an issue
> with
> > governmental or private sector employees being members per se. But it is
> > something that might be worth clarifying and discussing in the future.
>
> If my understanding is right, the IGC is a 'Civil Society' Caucus, and
> it has remain as a Civil
> Society body where members from other sectors are admitted as
> exceptions but not indiscriminately. Keeping membership wide open for
> Government and Business might make the IGC a multi-stakeholder body,
> but that would imply that the IGC is no longer a 'Civil Society'
> Caucus. Equal status to Government and Business might in future get
> distorted as proportionately larger status and larger influence to
> Government and Business. That is to say that the seats within IGC may
> be largely occupied by Business and Government interests.  So what do
> we want the IGC to be?  A civil Society body or a multi-stakeholder
> body?
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com<http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org<http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org>>,
> Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com<http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 04:50:34 +0500
> >> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org<http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org>
> >
> >> Subject: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I wanted to ask our experienced peers for some advice regarding
> >> membership of the IGC. I have been promoting IGC membership in the
> >> world around including any meeting regional or international that I
> >> attend. I have also encouraged a lot of people in the DiploFoundation
> >> network to join the IGC that belong to Civil Society, research or
> >> academia.
> >>
> >> However, I have one small question to ask, as IGC represents the Civil
> >> Society in the Internet Governance Forum, can government
> >> representatives and private sector be member of the IGC? Does personal
> >> capacity mean that government and private sector people can join the
> >> IGC and access the Civil Society led IG discourse as well as
> >> participate in the consensus oriented proceedings as well as take
> >> their objectives/goals/agendas to the IGF while representing their
> >> governments and companies?
> >>
> >> I know I am confused a bit but again I have to be clear here. Thank
> >> you in advance for your comments!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards.
> >> --------------------------
> >> Fouad Bajwa
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