[governance] Unsubscribing ACLU (Dateline 1953)

[Eric Dierker]

(this is for the education of Milton and Carlos and in honor of Martin, Gandhi, Bobby and Malcolm) Yes Carlos you quoted the same words verbatim!!!
 
October 4th 1953. Location: Phoenix, Arizona USA. Locale: Famed Phoenix Country Club. Activity: Emergency meeting of the BoD re: Membership.
 
It was learned today that there was a Jewish family that was inadvertently sold property within the Country Club. Emergency meeting to discuss enforcement of membership criteria, and exclusion of undesirables.  After much debate using words such as Kikes and Niggers the following was concluded;
 
"this can only be solved by clear membership rules and a
re-subscription (application) process in which people no one knows or about whom one
cannot obtain reliable references should not enter the list. (club) We would at
least clean up....."  
 
The only things worse than racial bigotry is bigotry based on faith and on class.  This horrible example of Carlos' way was only for a Country Club.  Can one imagine going back 50 years in bias and prejudice on a list about governance. Clearly we must say -- Forgive them lord, for they know not what they do.
 
Governance has never and will never be about the Carlos' and Miltons' deciding what is best for the people. They may exclude me and my brothers from their club, but they will never ever govern my people.

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Carlos Afonso <ca at rits.org.br> wrote:


From: Carlos Afonso <ca at rits.org.br>
Subject: Re: [governance] Unsubscribing and controlling the trolls
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Ginger Paque" <gpaque at gmail.com>
Cc: "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 5:34 PM


Ginger, this can only be solved by clear membership rules and a
re-subscription process in which people no one knows or about whom one
cannot obtain reliable references should not enter the list. We would at
least clean up the list of the "jeffrey williams" types and other
mystery folks.

It has worked well in our regional list in LA&C.

We might even have dogs participating in the list, for crying out loud! ;)

--c.a.

Ginger Paque wrote:
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> 
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> A close look at recent IGC archives show an increasing number of messages by 
> trolls. It also shows an increase in "unsubscribes". All of us must take 
> individual action to avoid destruction of the list. The co-coordinators cannot 
> do it with administrative action alone, because we must protect the right to 
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> Experienced trolls can manipulate real issues to distract and overwhelm a list. 
> Rather than unsubscribing, we suggest you not participate in discussions with 
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> We may need to open a discussion on changes to the charter, or a change to a 
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> Best,
> Ginger *
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