[governance] US Congrerss & JPA (r.e. the TLDA)

[kpeters at tldainc.org]

      I made no comment on behalf of the TLDA in my original post,  
READ it! I will say, though, that there were no members then, except  
that we included all those who had been involved years ago when it  
died for lack of enthusiasm upon the theft of a successful .BIZ from  
Leah Gallegos and the denial of .WEB to Chris Ambler. Many of those  
initial members had gotten out of the business altogether in that  
time. Some of those have dropped off but others have joined and with a  
new interactive website, including its own secure voting mechanism, we  
are no longer susceptible to fraud, as we once were. In your own way,  
you helped to inspire that move. We now have only 20 people managing  
their own TLDs in our group but there is much more participation from  
the few than we ever had before. Policies are being drafted and  
preparations are being made to stand up and offer our expected  
services. We are not there now, but ICANN has not been doing what it  
was designed for either, and they have a captive audience that pays  
them money to stay in the game. I would much rather defend TLDA  
(TLDAINC.ORG) than ICANN!
-Karl E. Peters

Quoting Joe Baptista <baptista at publicroot.org>:

> You are right Karl - what is important is to prevent collisions. That was at
> one time to be the job of the TLDA - the organization who's email address
> your using.
>
> Unfortunately the TLDA has ended up being a joke and a significant failure
> in the eyes of it's own membership. When I bootstrapped the TLDA two years
> ago with you we had over 30 members. Today you have five left.
>
> I point these difficult facts out to you in case anyone mistakes your
> comments for informed commentary. It is difficult to be considered informed
> when the organization one represent is a failure.
>
> cheers
> joe baptista
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM, <kpeters at tldainc.org> wrote:
>
>>     I believe the US congress wants to keep ICANN on a short leash
>> internally, but impose a mandate on them, withing those contraints, to be
>> international in scope and understanding through bottom-up listening. It can
>> well be argued that they have failed in much of that listening so far, but
>> this is how I justify the two apparently divergent positions.
>>    Nations and groups of nations should feel free to set up their own DNS
>> including whatever they like. No one is constrained to live with ICANN
>> except the US, and many of us use other DNS for a wider view of the
>> internet, too.
>>    The main caution is to work not to allow collisions in the namespace.
>>    Given the trend in American government, it is not so clear that you will
>> always be able to see a free press through ICANN and you may well be better
>> off with your own.
>> -Karl E. Peters
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>:
>>
>>   I do believe the Congressmen in the US has the right to advocate the
>>> permanence of ICANN under the US control, as I believe any Congress in the
>>> world will react if in their places. But I don't see a reason to not
>>> continue to state the need to ICANN to become really international.
>>>
>>> Vanda Scartezini
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>>> [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:29 PM
>>> To: igf_members at intgovforum.org
>>> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>> Subject: [governance] US Congrerss & JPA
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> wolfgang
>>>
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