Beauty beyond was;Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...

[Eric Dierker]

Dearest Avri,
 
Your wisdom is given away by your words. A mix in my head of Bruni, Theresa, Sophia, and Golda.  You are as quick witted as ever Shakespeare could have been and piercing of the heart as Cleopatra must have been.  You are a person of great insight blended with passion and compassion.
 
Why then, when it comes to your actions in ICANN do you shrink like a waif not yet convicted of the worth of your hearfelt knowledge? Your stated disdain for the elites, by way of power, prestige and money do not jive with your lapdog approach to the GNSO. I swear sometimes you act as one trying to atone for guilt at not being worthy of your own opines.
 
Reinstate Joe and Jeff to the GA.  Make statements through actions of inclusion of the unwashed. Do not be satisfied in knowing your own heart but follow it in deed.
 
I am not ashamed of my affection for your brilliance and so any post to you in private may be made public, it is out of respect I do not shout from rooftops. From our first exchanges some years ago, I recognized and respected your gifts, I wish only for you to capitalize on them. Clearly I am a highwayman and rogue and not suited for association with one of your position.
 
Eric

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com> wrote:


From: Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
Subject: Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...
To: "Governance/IGC List" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:29 PM



On 1 Aug 2009, at 20:14, Eric Dierker wrote:

> A wise Chief Justice of the US Supremes once pointed out "I do not know the definition of obscenity, but I know it when I see it." (or some such thing)

> Well I have just seen it again. The interchange between Doria and       . Making disgustingly disparaging remarks
...
> That kind of hate speech should be censored here.

1 Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184, 197 (1964) - Associate Justice Justice Potter Stewart  (never chief and i don't judge wisdom)

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced . . . [b]ut I know it when I see it . . . "[1]

and some other definitions from: http://www.brainyquote.com/words/ob/obscenity195426.html

Obscenity is whatever happens to shock some elderly and ignorant magistrate.
Bertrand Russell

Obscenity is a cleansing process, whereas pornography only adds to the murk.
Henry Miller

Obscenity, which is ever blasphemy against the divine beauty in life, is a monster for which the corruption of society forever brings forth new food, which it devours in secret.
Percy Bysshe Shelley

Since obscenity is the truth of our passion today, it is the only stuff of art - or almost the only stuff.
David Herbert Lawrence

The justices have constitutionally protected obscenity in libraries, filth over cable television, and now unlimited internet pornography.
Phyllis Schlafly

You have to show violence the way it is. If you don't show it realistically, then that's immoral and harmful. If you don't upset people, then that's obscenity.
Roman Polanski

Obscenity is a moral concept in the verbal arsenal of the establishment, which abuses the term by applying it, not to expressions of its own morality but to those of another.
Herbert Marcuse

Commercial speech is like obscenity... we can't seem to define it, but we know it when we see it.
Jef I. Richards

Sex and obscenity are not synonymous. Obscene material is material which deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest.
William J. Brennan, Jr.


at the risk for further branding (and taring and feathering) i have always been partial to Marcuse.

a.


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