[Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Tue Apr 21 03:18:58 EDT 2009
Folks, with only about 12 hours to go before we must submit it is getting a
little late for wordsmithing and suggested changes. I think we have to go
with the text below unless there is absolute support for a last minute
improvement. We have plenty of time to improve later on, but not before the
initial submission
Ian Peter
On 21/04/09 4:20 PM, "Parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
> Sorry Thomas . I think there was a cut and paste problem. I meant to put the
> text that we agreed on.
>
> so it will be.
>
> "The Internet's present governance structures grew out of certain historical
> contexts, as well as some new socio-political realities around the Internet.
> In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought, the key and
> emerging issues related to its governance could not have been anticipated by
> anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a
> technical artifact, requiring technical governance with regard to keeping it
> running smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
> participative, inclusive and accountable political governance, which includes
> its internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs of evolution
> and internationalization of IG from various standpoints and the direction in
> which we might move from here."
>
> Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> Parminder
>
>
> Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote:
>>
>> While the "Internationalization" language is somewhat changes from that which
>> we discussed, I support moving forward with both workshops.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Lowenhaupt
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Parminder <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>
>>>
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org ; Michael Gurstein <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Cc: 'Ian Peter' <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:41 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IGC-ers
>>>
>>> IGC has always taken lead in some key political issues at each IGF, and it
>>> will be rather amiss if we do not do. Moreover, it will not be the best
>>> outcome of all the energy and time we all devote here voluntarily for some
>>> public interest causes we believe it.
>>>
>>> I therefore seek views and endorsements for the two workshops that i think
>>> have a history in IGC's political engagements in global IG forums,
>>> especially the IGF. I am trying to push this at this late hour because I do
>>> believe ob both these subjects - Network Neutrality and Internationalisation
>>> of IG - there is a strong support in the IGC, which for some reasons have
>>> not clearly come out.
>>>
>>> So if you do want IGC to sponsor a workshop on these subjects pl indicate
>>> so in the next 24 hours, after which I will request the coordinators to take
>>> a call if enough support for these workshop has been forthcoming. While the
>>> text of the two workshop, at this stage of discussion, is posted below, we
>>> must remember that this is an initial rough proposal stage, and the final
>>> text can be changed to a considerable extent, within the overall stated
>>> subject framework, later, which we can do over some discussions. On the
>>> other hand, if we do not submit workshop proposals now they cannot be
>>> submitted ever for the IGF 4.
>>>
>>> I am only picking up these two workshops to especially advocate for them on
>>> my behalf within the IGC. Other workshop proposals that are moving forward
>>> will of course keep doing so, and coordinators may take a final decision
>>> tomorrow, though i ma not quite sure what the overall plan is.
>>>
>>> Thanks, parminder
>>>
>>> Workshop 1 -
>>>
>>> Internationalization of Internet Governance - The way forward from where we
>>> stand today
>>> The Internet's present governance structures grew out of certain historical
>>> contexts, as well as some new socio-political realities around the
>>> Internet. In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought,
>>> the key and emerging issues related to its governance could not have been
>>> anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is
>>> not just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance with regard to
>>> keeping it running smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
>>> participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. It is
>>> important to analyze the needs of evolution and internationalization of IG
>>> from various standpoints and the direction in which we might move from
>>> here.
>>>
>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
>>> possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the advantages and
>>> disadvantages of each.
>>>
>>>
>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think should
>>> organize it?
>>>
>>>
>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
>>>
>>> It is important to analyze the needs of evolution and internationalization
>>> of IG from various standpoints and the direction in which we might move
>>> from here.
>>>
>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
>>> possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the advantages and
>>> disadvantages of each.
>>>
>>>
>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think should
>>> organize it?
>>>
>>>
>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop
>>>
>>> Workshop 2
>>>
>>> Network Neutrality - Exploring a global consensus on principles
>>>
>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>> There is an increasing recognition of the urgency to develop some kind of NN
>>> principles in order to preserve the open and democratic nature of the
>>> Internet, and safeguard the interest of Internet users and others affected
>>> by it. This workshop will explore recent efforts to articulate and agree on
>>> NN principles in Europe, Japan, the U.S. and developing countries. While
>>> proceeding from numerous national regulatory developments, it will try to
>>> assess the transnational implications of various approaches to NN,
>>> especially vis a vis developing countries who seem largely absent from NN
>>> debates.
>>>
>>> Relates to theme -
>>> Openness
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? or who do you think should
>>> organize it?
>>>
>>> Internet Governance Project (IGP) is happy to play a support role in
>>> organizing this. Others we would approach: Free Press (USA-based civil
>>> society advocacy group); Consumer Council of Norway; ITforChange
>>> (India-based civil society advocacy group), Japan Internet Providers
>>> Association and Ministry of Communications. There are other specific
>>> countries or examples that are involved in such negotiations over principles
>>> that we don't know about yet but will learn about later. We will seek out
>>> additional developing country commentators in particular.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Gurstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would support this Workshop.
>>>>
>>>> MBG
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:45 PM
>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Ian Peter'; 'Parminder'
>>>> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At th is stage as we all seem to be occupied with other things I do not
>>>> believe IGC can endorse this workshop (unless there is a flood of support
>>>> in
>>>> next 48 hours and no opposition. Parminder, I would encourage you to submit
>>>> it in any case.
>>>>
>>>> Ian Peter
>>>> PO Box 429
>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>> Australia
>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>> www.ianpeter.com <http://www.ianpeter.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>>>>> Sent: 18 April 2009 05:12
>>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
>>>>> Internationalisation of
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Parminder. Any more comments on this? I thinkwe need
>>>>> expressions of support for the new wording from a few of
>>>>> those who were not happy with the previous version if we are
>>>>> to submit this as an IGC proposal
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> PO Box 429
>>>>>
>>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>>>
>>>>> Australia
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ianpeter.com <http://www.ianpeter.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>>>>> Sent: 18 April 2009 03:01
>>>>> To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'; Ian Peter
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
>>>>> Internationalisation of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am fine with this. Just a technical language related point.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we mean IG and not the Internet to be internationalised.
>>>>> Would therefore prefer
>>>>>
>>>>> "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
>>>>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
>>>>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
>>>>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative, inclusive
>>>>> and accountable internationalization."
>>>>>
>>>>> to be changed to
>>>>>
>>>>> "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
>>>>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
>>>>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key global
>>>>> socio-political phenomenon whose governance requires
>>>>> participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. "
>>>>>
>>>>> parminder
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Peter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me have one last go at this to see if we
>>>>> can get some acceptable wording . Please let me know if the
>>>>> following draft works, or possible amendments that might make
>>>>> it work. I'm trying to accommodate the range of interesting
>>>>> viewpoints we have on this subject
>>>>> - that is going to require removing some of the concepts
>>>>> which require further discussion or we will not reach agreement
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've changed the original text quite liberally!
>>>>> Let me know if this works
>>>>>
>>>>> Title
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Internationalization of Internet Governance -
>>>>> The way forward from where we stand today
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Internet's present governance structures
>>>>> grew out of certain historical contexts, as well as some new
>>>>> socio-political realities around the Internet. In the context
>>>>> of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought, the key and
>>>>> emerging issues related to its governance could not have been
>>>>> anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the
>>>>> Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
>>>>> technical governance with regard to keeping it running
>>>>> smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
>>>>> participative, inclusive and accountable
>>>>> internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs of
>>>>> evolution and internationalization of IG from various
>>>>> standpoints and the direction in which we might move from here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real
>>>>> institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or
>>>>> who do you think should organize it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> PO Box 429
>>>>>
>>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>>>
>>>>> Australia
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>>>
>>>>> www.ianpeter.com <http://www.ianpeter.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Parminder
>>>>> [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2009 13:07
>>>>> To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'
>>>>> Subject: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop
>>>>> proposal - Internationalisation of IG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an attempted draft for the
>>>>> proposed internationalisation workshop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Title
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Democratic internationalization of
>>>>> Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today
>>>>> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
>>>>> <!--[endif]-->
>>>>>
>>>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As the Internet becomes a key factor of
>>>>> reorganizing our social structures, and doing so at a global
>>>>> level as never before, democratic global governance of the
>>>>> Internet is a pressing imperative. Its present governance
>>>>> structures grew out of certain historical contexts, as well
>>>>> as of some new socio-political realities around the Internet.
>>>>> In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has
>>>>> wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
>>>>> governance, and the correspondingly legitimate governance
>>>>> arrangements, could not have been anticipated by anyone. One
>>>>> thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a
>>>>> technical artifact, requiring technical governance with
>>>>> regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
>>>>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative political
>>>>> governance by all people of the world, who are all
>>>>> implicated. However, the direction we move in from here
>>>>> depends on where we stand. It is important to analyze the
>>>>> needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from these
>>>>> dual standpoints.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some
>>>>> real institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers
>>>>> ? Or who do you think should organize it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is best that this workshop is
>>>>> organized by civil society actors. IG Caucus will like to
>>>>> organize this workshop, along with some civil society
>>>>> organizations form the North and South that have shown interest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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