[governance] Inputs for synthesis paper

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Tue Sep 9 11:08:47 EDT 2008


On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>> Ok, then lets do that. We will not use the terms negative, positive
> and
>> collective rights, since we are not able to agree on analytical
>> difference/
>
> it is not a satisfactory solution.
>
> The whole point of this debate is that some people mean completely
> different, sometimes clashing things by "rights." This division applies
> not only within civil society, but to states and business, for example
> IPRs. In essence, the positive and collective rights folks are saying,
> "those individual rights you care about so much are not meaningful, we
> need a different conception that pushes states into a more active
> guarantor role." And the individual/negative rights folks say, "those
> conceptions of collective rights can often be threats to what we
> consider rights."
>
> I do not see how we advance a rights discourse around the internet by
> pretending that that problem does not exist. I would rather squarely
> face it, acknowledge its existence, and deal with it. I see absolutely
> no value in initiating a rights discourse without dealing with that
> problem. And if you somehow succeed in making it the theme of IGF IV,
> you will immediately be forced to deal with it. So let the synthesis
> paper input openly acknowledge the problem, please.

+1

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
mctim.blogspot.com
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