tardis Re: [governance] IGC website hosting and maintenenance- call

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Tue Sep 30 20:58:36 EDT 2008


Roeland and all,

  Roland, your right.  The problem I have is that 1.) This is a
public mailing list, and 2.) Jeremy made a false assumption,
or at least a guarded assumption in my name.  That is defamation
by definition.  And yes I take great offense to it, but FAR more
important is that this very sort of attitude is becoming pervasive
and impacts accordingly anyone indiscrimenently and harmfully,
based on a false assumption.  Bad personal or professional
policy, bad practice, and I categorically reject it fully!

  This again articulated differently, if we are to conduct a productive
discussion and debate on relevant issues, false claims, false positives,
or outright unknown assigned assumptions must cease and be rejected
without further consideration and attributed as they were made.  Yet
I will accept a public apology from Jeremy if he cares to give it...

Roland Perry wrote:

> In message <48E17746.146C3D52 at ix.netcom.com>, at 17:48:07 on Mon, 29 Sep
> 2008, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> writes
> >Simply a fact that implying as Jeremy's post at the bottom, stated and
> >directly infered was that my response was spam.
>
> I have a feeling there are at least two misunderstandings here.
>
> 1) The message only said it was "possible spam". I'm sure you are aware
> of the concept of false positives (in this case possibly triggered
> because you unnecessarily cc'd Jeremy's personal email address as well
> as mailing to the list; excessive cross-posting is often used as an
> indicator in spam filters). Jeremy's system would have seen two copies
> of the email, one via the list (which was probably whitelisted) and
> another directly from you (and you were clearly not in his whitelist).
>
> 2) I expect that *only* yourself saw that message from his spam filter,
> as a result of the direct-addressed copy of your 'Google' question being
> "returned to sender" (see above). Those words, which were only
> circulated to us here because you chose to redistribute them, were not
> apparently sent to the list.
>
> As a general rule including more than one list, or a list plus
> individuals already on the list, in the addressees of an email will
> often end in tears. And now back to our regular programmes...
> --
> Roland Perry
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