[Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen email

Jaco Aizenman skorpio at gmail.com
Sun Oct 12 06:06:38 EDT 2008


Hello Parminder and Michael,

A non professional translation to English for the virtual personality
fundamental right is here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070704102907/http://virtualrights.org/files/Congress%20of%20the%20Republic%20of%20Costa%20Rica.doc

The original in Spanish, VIrtual Personality fundamental right, Law #15890,
is here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070704102907/http://virtualrights.org/files/PROYECTO%20PERSONALIDAD%20VIRTUAL.doc

Parminder, the free website is one page, and the reason is to offer several
components of a virtual personality, not just email, but websites, and in
the future hopefully a bank account (good for people in extreme poverty) and
other components (voice mail, etc).More here but in Spanish:
http://paginas.racsa.co.cr/costarricense/admin1/login.php

Michael, in Costa RIca we do not use the terms, "Internet Bill of RIghts",
or "Right to the Internet", but "Virtual Personality fundamental right",
which includes things that may not be in the Internet, at least today, such
as a bank account or your PSTN phone number.

Please be kind to let me know if I can contribute with more information or
exchanges.

Best regards,

Jaco


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:

>  Mike, I also just now sent a similar email to Jaco J (cut-pasted below).
> Parminder
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> Hi Jaco,
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> Can you please forward some documents on Costa Rican law  or bill of rights
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> I will especially like more information on what is meant by
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> - Free access all over the country,  including remote areas that satellite
> access was used.
> -Free website.
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> Thanks.
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> *From:* Michael Gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:22 AM
> *To:* 'Jaco Aizenman'
> *Subject:* RE: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen email
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> Hi Jaco,
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> Thanks very much for this...
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> I'm presenting at the IGF on Right to the Internet (or some such) and I'm
> very interested in the experience in Costa Rica, with which I wasn't
> familiar... You wouldn't happen to know of any sources (in English
> my Spanish wouldn't work for the nuances required) that summarize and/or
> dosuss tje current programs in Costa Rica.
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> Tks,
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> MG
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> Michael Gurstein, Ph.D.
> Centre for Community Informatics Research, Training and Development
> Ste. 2101-989 Nelson St.
> Vancouver BC CANADA v6z 2s1
> http://www.communityinformatics.net
> tel./fax +1-604-602-0624
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* bill-of-rights-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:
> bill-of-rights-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Jaco Aizenman
> *Sent:* October-12-08 2:44 AM
> *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter; bill-of-rights at ipjustice.org
> *Cc:* Avri Doria
> *Subject:* Re: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen email
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> I can comment on what *already* happened in Costa Rica, where a similar
> program was launched in 2000(*):
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> Most people use not just the Government, www.costarricense.cr , but also
> Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo or/and the work email.
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> Tracking is a problem, but the problem applies not just for the public
> sector providers but also for the private sector providers, which have even
> much more pointers (email, searches, social sites, etc).
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> That´s why it is perceived locally as a necessity and as a human right
> having an Internet Bill of Rights (Law #15890, presented in 2004).
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> (*) It was not just email, but:
> -Free access all over the country,  including remote areas that satellite
> access was used.
> -Free website.
> -The concept of universalizing virtual personality, including bank accounts
> (Good for people in extreme poverty)) and others, which a a few years later
> ended in the Congress with the virtual personality fundamental right,
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> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
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> Comments below
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
> > Sent: 12 October 2008 10:02
> > To: Governance List
> > Subject: Re: [governance] germany plans citizen email
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> > On 11 Oct 2008, at 01:38, Ian Peter wrote:
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> Not be, I was quoting Johannes Ernst
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> > > First you create a universal digital identifier for each citizen
> > > that they have no control over (e.g. they can't have more than one
> > > for different purposes, change it to something else, run it on a
> > > different computer, decide not to show their name in it etc.)
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> > but would they be required to use t for anything other then government
> > business?  sure if they use it for other stuff then tracking becomes
> > possible, but if it is just your gov't id used when doing citizen stuff?
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> > a.
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> I don't know, I guess that's the sort of detail that's really needed to
> evaluate this properly. But national ID schemes with attached data matching
> capabilities are a privacy issue, and the US social security number is a
> case in point.
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> Jaco Aizenman L.
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> Tel/Voicemail: 506-83461570
> Costa Rica
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Jaco Aizenman L.
My iname is =jaco (http://xri.net/=jaco)
XDI Board member - www.xdi.org
Tel/Voicemail: 506-83461570
Costa Rica

What is an i-name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-name
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