[governance] IGF, Hyderabad
Jeffrey A. Williams
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Mon Nov 17 23:12:16 EST 2008
Bill and all,
I certainly believe that the ITU is a viable and established
stakeholder,
but alas I and our members have had and continue to have a rather
bad taste in our mouths for the ITU's policies and practices or
proposed policy strategy for the Internet especially in terms of
access to knowledge. As such unless or until the ITU significantly
modifies this strategy and practice, so that any an all stakeholders
have free and unfettered access to ITU documents in respect to
Internet related policies or proposed policies, we will continue to
be unable as a matter of principal to be very supportive of the
ITU.
Ergo, it is my and nearly all of our members opinion that the
ITU in terms of openness and transparency, isn't willing enough
to work in a cooperative manner with all members of the Internet
community. Yet as an eternal optimist, I remain hopeful that
sometime in the unknown future the ITU's behavior in this and
other policy areas and practices will discontinue its lack of
helpful and inclusive cooperation with all Internet stakeholders,
and that change, as the new US administration is also looking
forward to will occur in my lifetime, but I am of course not
holding my breath...
William Drake wrote:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
> Sorry, I don't recall your comments at Eurodig, maybe I was emailing
> or something at the time. But I agree with you that the ITU/CS
> interface, or rather the lack thereof, urgently needs attention,
> especially since there is at least nominally a review underway in ITU
> and it'd be good to be useful to the friendly governments that asked
> for it. I've raised the matter a number of times on gov list over the
> years, suggested interested people collaborate, but never managed to
> stir much interest in this or the ITU more generally. If Toure's
> rather provocative speech in Cairo has changed the landscape and
> people are now concerned about what governments, telcos et al are up
> to in ITU, great. I'd of course be happy to talk to you about this
> stuff, but I don't think the two of us alone can do anything that
> would matter to ITU, the only thing that might resonate is a
> collective engagement.
> Best,
> Bill
> On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:12 PM, jlfullsack wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill I beg your pardon for butting in with a personel reminding
>> :During the the Eurodig session at Strasbourg you mentioned some
>> concerns about the ITU, especially in the field of CS friendliness
>> or inclusion. During the following discussion I expressed my
>> readiness to join you for looking more closely on different issues
>> regarding CS participation in its working and other hot issues
>> concerning this UN agency, as to draw up some recommendations for
>> the future EURDIC ou whichever MS discussion on IG or general
>> international institutions' governance. Would you be so kind for
>> answering if you agree on this personal proposal. It's possible for
>> me to stay a couple of days in the Geneva area. All the
>> bestJean-Louis FullsackHave a look to our website www.csdptt.org
>> where you'll find an article (in french) entitled 'L'UIT : la
>> vieille dame des télécommunications' which best reflects my own
>> experience with, and opinion about, the ITU
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: William Drake
>> To: Governance
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad
>> Hi, The 2nd sounds right, we should meet as early as
>> possible in the week, but after GigaNet would be
>> problematic. Best, BD On Nov 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM,
>> Parminder wrote:
>>
>> > There is a giganet business meeting on 1st evening 17 to
>> > 1830 hours.
>> >
>> > Can we then agree to meet on 2nd 1730 to 1930. Know it
>> > is a bit late but there isnt any other opportunity IGC
>> > gets to meet, other than at IGFs.
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>> >
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:03 PM
>> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> > Subject: RE: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad
>> >
>> > Either date works for me early evening to allow those
>> > who want to take a meal together afterwards would
>> > probably suit best.
>> >
>> > Ian Peter
>> >
>> > PO Box 429
>> >
>> > Bangalow NSW 2479
>> >
>> > Australia
>> >
>> > Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>> >
>> > www.ianpeter.com
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>> >
>> > Sent: 09 November 2008 17:26
>> > To: 'Ian Peter'; governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> > Subject: [governance] IGF, Hyderabad
>> >
>> > Ian
>> >
>> > After posting a report on IGC at the IGF, the customary
>> > IGC meeting at IGF was the next thing I was going to
>> > suggest. How does the evening of 1st (eve of IGF) or 2nd
>> > (day 1 of the IGF) sound to all those who will be
>> > attending.
>> >
>> > I also was not seeking a statement from the IGC on the
>> > way IGF should evolve, only seeking to orient the group
>> > towards starting to engage with this issue. We have a
>> > workshop on this issue at the IGF, and IGF review process
>> > kind of starts from IGF, Hyderabad, onwards.
>> >
>> > I agree with what you say, Ian, on starting the election
>> > process.
>> >
>> > Parminder
>> >
>>
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