[Gov 586] Re:ITU and ICANN - a loveless forced marriage Re: [governance] ITU & ICANN in Cairo

[Sivasubramanian Muthusamy]

Hello Roland Perry,

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Roland Perry <
roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:

> In message
> <fecfce260811090012m10c0f3d2ud008b07a8a723a39 at mail.gmail.com>, at
> 13:42:15 on Sun, 9 Nov 2008, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> <isolatedn at gmail.com> writes
> >What concerns me is the fact that IPV6 seems to have obviated (or made
> >impossible) Network Address Translation. This means that everything
> >that I ever say on the Internet is linked to my unique, unchangeable
> >IPV6 address.
>
> [My replies here are not about ITU or ICANN, but address wider issues]
>
> I don't share your pessimism that ipv6 goes hand-in-hand with the demise
> of privacy-enhancing techniques (why is it worse than using a static
> ipv4 address), and remember there's also a balance to be struck with
> those who claim that the Internet's fundamental "end to end" principle
> is in danger of being destroyed by over-use of NAT.


I am not so well educated on the technical nuances of IPV6.  I notice that
you have described ipV4 as "static" - Is ipV6 dynamic, is it designed to be
"not-static" ?

I expressed one concern related to ipV6, am not altogether pessimistic nor
do I consider ipV4 preferable. I would also share your concerns about the
over-use of NAT in ipV4, especially if it endangers the end to end
principle.

>
>
> >How would I trust the Law and Order agencies to restrict use of these
> >[trace-back] technologies only against terrorists and criminals and not
> >against the unsuspecting citizens ?
>
> The same way you trust them (or not) with regard to your telephone
> number and associated call logs, your car licence plate, your credit
> card bills, or your passport and airline travel itineraries.


Actually there is more to distrust in telephony than on the Internet. Voice
processing technologies and the architecture of mobile communication /
mobile phones have made it easier for the authorities to monitor mobile
communications. A passport is essential, disclosing personal information to
travel is inevitable, but the concern is that all these bits and pieces of
information shared in different places could get synthesizes into a dossier
that could go into a "giant database".  Add to that the danger of linking
online communication to IP addresses ....


>legislations such as directives by UK to ISPs to retain email logs for
> >two years
>
>
> Although most of the press coverage is from the UK (due in part to the
> highly transparent way measures like this are introduced), this is a
> Europe-wide Directive and all the UK is doing is putting that EU
> Directive into force (and rather late in the permitted timescale).


Yes, it is Europe wide and so there is a greater cause for concern.

>
>
>        "Our children, who spend most of their time in cyberspace, are
>        not taught the basic behaviours in the cyberspace. When they go
>        out in the street, we tell them, "Be careful. Don't talk to
>        strangers, don't accept candy from someone you don't know. It
>        could be a drug that could kill you." But they're out there in
>        cyberspace without telling them what to do or how to behave.
>
> >Yes, we will make them paranoid
>
> There's no need for children to become paranoid, but as you know the
> Internet accelerates all the good and the bad in the world. Children are
> more vulnerable to scams and "drive by" attacks, and have fewer
> inhibitions against publishing their indiscretions and secrets
> (including those of their family) for the world to see. Addressing this
> is an aspect of "child protection" which is too easily ignored.


Agreed. Children do require a bit of orientation,  but we need to educate
them in such a way that they do not grow up as a paranoid generation.

Thank you Roland Perry, for your comments .


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