[governance] RE: organizational orientation

[Adam Peake]

>Let me take a different tack on this -
>
>My only reason for being on this list is because I believe it is important
>that the role of governments in particular in Internet governance be
>appropriately established - hence a UN initiative is very appropriate to
>move us away from


Ian, thanks, interesting comment.  When you say:


>unilateral government control systems.


are you focusing on the root?

Thanks,

Adam


>And as we move away
>from the pioneer governance systems to something more appropriate
>multistakeholder becomes an important concept.
>
>I am not the slightest bit interested in ICANN. If I want to involve myself
>with RIRs I can do so already. To me, despite a few problems, they have good
>structures in place for what they do. I'd rather concentrate on the gaps and
>where we need something new, and appropriate roles for governments acting in
>concert, rather than turn this list into a catch-all for discussion and
>gripes on well structured existing institutions.
>
>ICANN and RIRs and IETF are the little picture. Let's look at the bigger
>picture of what is happening in this area and what needs to emerge. And
>where the gaps are in Internet governance.
>
>
>
>
>
>Ian Peter
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>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu]
>>  Sent: 29 May 2008 06:50
>>  To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
>>  Subject: [governance] RE: organizational orientation
>>
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
>>  >
>>  > while i agree that the IGF is one of the most visible IG foci
>>  > for this caucus at the moment, i wonder whether it is the primary one.
>>
>>  There is no doubt that IGF is the primary focus. This caucus generates
>>  statements for submission to IGF, and nominates people to the IGF AG,
>>  and serves as a focal point for the organization of workshops at IGF
>>  annual meetings.
>>
>>  ICANN is an often-discussed topic, yes. But this caucus has never
>>  generated a statement to an ICANN meeting or process, never nominated
>>  anyone for the numerous ICANN positions and never organized a workshop
>>  for an ICANN meeting. As ICANN meetings approach, we do not see list
>>  members telling each other who plans to be there. I would like to see
>>  more people here get involved in ICANN processes directly; as chair of
>>  the NCUC and an active participant in GNSO task forces and policy
>>  development processes, I have often urged people here to get more
>>  involved.
>>
>>  RIRs are barely on the agenda here, though of course I wish more of us
>>  were involved in that too. (By the way, a newcomer from this list
>>  recently made a comment on the ARIN list and was instantly attacked by
>>  Randy Bush. There was nothing particularly wrong or controversial about
>>  the newcomers' comment, Bush was just being territorial and attempting
>>  to make this person feel like an outsider. So be forwarned: while there
>>  are numerous and quite sincere entreaties from the RIRs to get more
>>  involved, there is still a very strong tribal element in those circles
>>  that will not be happy when you do. But I expect that to change
>>  gradually.)
>>
>>  The EU is another area to keep an eye on. There are enough Europeans
>>  here, and enough global impact of EU decisions, for that to be a proper
>>  area of focus. And of course, we all must, for better or worse, pay
>>  attention to aspects of US policy. As a principal of IGP I often wish
>>  people in this group would respond more actively to efforts to respond
>>  strategically to US actions that have global consequences (ICANN JPA
>>  being an obvious case in point).
>>
>>  Milton Mueller
>>  Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>>  XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
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