[governance] RE: organizational orientation

[Ian Peter]

Let me take a different tack on this -

My only reason for being on this list is because I believe it is important
that the role of governments in particular in Internet governance be
appropriately established - hence a UN initiative is very appropriate to
move us away from unilateral government control systems. And as we move away
from the pioneer governance systems to something more appropriate
multistakeholder becomes an important concept.

I am not the slightest bit interested in ICANN. If I want to involve myself
with RIRs I can do so already. To me, despite a few problems, they have good
structures in place for what they do. I'd rather concentrate on the gaps and
where we need something new, and appropriate roles for governments acting in
concert, rather than turn this list into a catch-all for discussion and
gripes on well structured existing institutions.

ICANN and RIRs and IETF are the little picture. Let's look at the bigger
picture of what is happening in this area and what needs to emerge. And
where the gaps are in Internet governance.





Ian Peter
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu]
> Sent: 29 May 2008 06:50
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
> Subject: [governance] RE: organizational orientation
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
> >
> > while i agree that the IGF is one of the most visible IG foci
> > for this caucus at the moment, i wonder whether it is the primary one.
> 
> There is no doubt that IGF is the primary focus. This caucus generates
> statements for submission to IGF, and nominates people to the IGF AG,
> and serves as a focal point for the organization of workshops at IGF
> annual meetings.
> 
> ICANN is an often-discussed topic, yes. But this caucus has never
> generated a statement to an ICANN meeting or process, never nominated
> anyone for the numerous ICANN positions and never organized a workshop
> for an ICANN meeting. As ICANN meetings approach, we do not see list
> members telling each other who plans to be there. I would like to see
> more people here get involved in ICANN processes directly; as chair of
> the NCUC and an active participant in GNSO task forces and policy
> development processes, I have often urged people here to get more
> involved.
> 
> RIRs are barely on the agenda here, though of course I wish more of us
> were involved in that too. (By the way, a newcomer from this list
> recently made a comment on the ARIN list and was instantly attacked by
> Randy Bush. There was nothing particularly wrong or controversial about
> the newcomers' comment, Bush was just being territorial and attempting
> to make this person feel like an outsider. So be forwarned: while there
> are numerous and quite sincere entreaties from the RIRs to get more
> involved, there is still a very strong tribal element in those circles
> that will not be happy when you do. But I expect that to change
> gradually.)
> 
> The EU is another area to keep an eye on. There are enough Europeans
> here, and enough global impact of EU decisions, for that to be a proper
> area of focus. And of course, we all must, for better or worse, pay
> attention to aspects of US policy. As a principal of IGP I often wish
> people in this group would respond more actively to efforts to respond
> strategically to US actions that have global consequences (ICANN JPA
> being an obvious case in point).
> 
> Milton Mueller
> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
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