[governance] Nomcom and conflict of interest

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

1.       It is up to him to stand for election. And to declare any conflicts
of interest

2.       It is THEN up to the nomcomm to evaluate his statement of candidacy

3.       It is not, with all due respect, up to the nomcomm to apply a
blanket ban

 

From: Guru [mailto:guru at itforchange.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:10 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Avri Doria'
Subject: Re: [governance] Nomcom and conflict of interest

 

Suresh

Bertrand has been active member of IGC and as a CS person in WSIS. He is
currently member of GAC, representing Govt of France. Do you think that he
can also be nominated by IGC to MAG under CS quota?  

Guru

Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: 

I will agree with Avri's definition 100%, and again submit that if some
PERSON has CS cred, he has CS cred, regardless of whatever organization
(private sector, intl org, " IAB"  etc) that he happens to work for.

 

 

From: Guru [mailto:guru at itforchange.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:38 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
Subject: Re: [governance] Nomcom and conflict of interest

 

Avri,

There is a serious problem when the same term is used to mean two different
things. It leads to a lot of confusion, when in an argument one person is
using one meaning and the other person, the second meaning.

Can we try and use two different terms for these two categories.

We could consistently use 

A. IAB (Internet Administration Bodies) for those "those _organizations_
that focus on work, often  in a partially coordinated manner, intended to
insure the technical integrity and technical development of the Internet." I
would add - 'and participate in the administration / governance of the
internet'. The IGC submission in the feb consultations clearly covered this
group when it stated that the participation of IABs in MAG should not be at
the cost of CS participation'

B. and use 'technical  experts' (i am sure better names are possible) for
individuals - these experts can belong to Govt or Business or CS groups (as
also suggested by Raul). 

Guru
ps- Still waiting from responses on this question from Suresh and McTim..


Avri Doria wrote: 


On 26 May 2008, at 11:27, Raul Echeberria wrote: 





There are still many people that prefer to keep the classification in 3
stakeholders group. 



and it is those people who make the rules.  we don't get to decide how many
stakeholder groups there are in things that derive from the WSIS decisions.
we can argue for change, but we alone do not make the rules. 

the WSIS Tunis Agenda defined 3 groups plus 2 cross-cutting groups.  so
within this environment we seem to be stuck with 3 stakeholder groups and 2
cross-cutting groups. 

btw, in another thread someone asked for a definition of the Internet
technical Community.  in addition to what i have written abut it before i
define it as: 

those _organizations_ that focus on work, often  in a partially coordinated
manner, intended to insure the technical integrity and technical development
of the Internet. 

the term can also be applied to those individuals, whether they come from
government, business or civil society who devote their lives to the cause of
Internet technical integrity and technical development and who work with or
for these organizations.  yes, i see this as somewhat problematic and at the
time of WSIS argued for a 4th house - the Internet Technical Community.  but
as history shows, this was rejected and thus we, pragmatically, need to live
with what we've got until  the ground rules change. 

and I agree with Raul when he says: 





In that case we have o let anybody to decide to which group they feel
closer. 
Maybe some people in the so called "technical community" feel closer from
the business sector, and others, like me feels part of civil society
organizations space. 



a. 
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