[governance] IGC nominees for MAG

Jeanette Hofmann jeanette at wzb.eu
Sun Mar 16 13:59:22 EDT 2008



Guru wrote:
> I am not able to understand Adam's proposal that the noncom should recommend
> all the 5 members of the MAG.
> 
> In the case of speakers for IGF @ Rio, we heard forceful arguments -
> including by Adam - for not nominating any of the IGF Greece speakers. The
> logic for this being several - that new perspectives are required,
> especially given that CS by nature is broad and diverse, and newer
> views/interests need to be heard. While the role of IGF speakers and MAG
> members are not identical, as Drake mentions, no rare expertise appears to
> be required that many CS members do not have. As for experience, there is
> really nothing that the MAG does, which cannot be learnt in  a short period.
> 
> 
> Interestingly, some MAG members have suggested that they are in MAG more in
> their 'personal capacity' and not so much in terms of representing any group
> or CS. 

Guru, I don't recall any MAG member saying that. Who was it and when?
jeanette

On this line of reasoning, there is even stronger imperative to
> rotate members so that we have wider CS represenation, and see new faces and
> different viewpoints. I find it even more untenable that the same people
> have both the 'expression of personal capacity' and 're-nominate all
> existing members' viewpoints. At least if we were agreeing with the
> 'representation' basis of MAG membership, the 'retain existing members'
> viewpoint may have some basis in better effectiveness of represenation etc
> (which, as mentioned above, I really do not subscribe to).
> 
> I agree with Miltons observation that "an organization that does not know
> how to regularly rotate and elect committee members is almost by definition
> moribund or worse, corrupt... And given the tasks of the MAG, which are
> entirely advisory and involve no technical expertise, the case for high
> levels of continuity is quite weak". I think a rotation of 1/3 should be the
> minimum rather than the stipulation. I think this was also the spirit of the
> suggestion made in our Feb statement. Within CS, we should have the spirit
> of understanding the work done by members and what will best push CS agendas
> forward. Automatic re-nomination as a consequence would really be out of
> place in our current context and it is truly extra-ordinary for existing MAG
> members to make such proposals.
> 
> Regards,
> Guru
> _____________ 
> Gurumurthy K 
> IT for Change, Bangalore 
> Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities 
> www.ITforChange.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 5:43 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC nominees for MAG
> 
> I agree with Ken, and my probably more self-serving looking proposal is:
> 
> The five members of the MAG the caucus nomcom recommended in 2006 be
> included on any list of candidates with a note to say the caucus would
> support their continued membership of the MAG should the SG find they
> continue to enhance the balance of the group. The five (unless anyone drops
> out) are included in any candidate list. 
> Part of this arrangement should include a renewed commitment to ensure they
> provide a flow of information between the MAG and civil society (should be
> broader than the caucus) and whatever other conditions seem to make sense
> (we should discuss these criteria.)
> 
> It's up to those five individuals to write up some persuasive reasons why
> they want/should stay on the group, and for the SG to select them or not
> considering advice he receives on their past contributions and the balance
> of the candidate pool.
> 
> Important we emphasize civil society has been under represented in the
> multi-stakeholder advisory groups appointed in 2006 and 2007, and the MAG
> would benefit from an increase in civil society membership. Then provide an
> additional 
> pool  of   9 / 11 / 15 (pick a number) additional 
> candidates. The MAG recommendations say improvement's needed with regard to
> the gender balance and representation of developing countries, so focus on
> those areas: look for strong candidates from Latin America and Asia in
> particularly (South and South East Asia), and East and South Africa, making
> sure there's gender balance across the candidate pool and include Gender and
> ICT as a special interest group.
> 
> Aim for a list of 15 + candidates, including the 5 from 2006.
> 
> Other civil society groups will put forwards names, and I expect (no MAG
> insight - just personal opinion) the SG's going to give those people the
> same consideration he will the people recommended by the caucus. 
> 
> Milton, all MAG members are willing to be rotated out.  The idea of the
> "black box" was for all to have to resubmit their names and one way or
> another 1/3 would not be re-selected.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> Dear colleagues
>>
>> I think we have a consensus about a nomcom process, and to have new 
>> names, and some colleagues suggested principles of a specific mandate 
>> the people IGC recommends must have (we need to further discuss some of 
>> these rules). I would also like to say that the current CS MAG members 
>> have throughout these 2 years supported the caucus positions (even 
>> though the consensus is sometimes hard to achieve within IGC itself), 
>> interacted with and sent reports to the IGC and to other CS groupings, 
>> during and after meetings, even though it's it was not through formal 
>> proceedures, and even though we can improve things.
>>
>> But to continue with the nomcom process : first of all, I would like to 
>> say I will not vote against submitting only new names to the UN, but I 
>> think it's reasonable and consistent with the caucus last statement 
>> (Feb) and the general consensus (here and elsewhere) that there is some 
>> continuity within the MAG ; therefore at least a few IGC members of the 
>> current MAG should be included in the new list. Not having none of them 
>> in that list will also be interpreted as disavowal/denial of confidence 
>> in all of them (unless we express clearly the
>> contrary) and I hope it's not the caucus general feeling :-). We may 
>> include all the current members + the new names, or selected 3 current 
>> MAG members (through another ramdom process, unless we have a better 
>> quick method) and add the new names. In any case, it's true it's the UN 
>> that will decide.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Ken L
>>
>> Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
>>> Hi, I have a few questions regarding this list of "minimal rules".
>>>
>>> 1. The caucus statement prepared for the last public consultation a 
>>> rotation of one third of the MAG members: "One third of MAG members 
>>> should be rotated every year." is this recommendation still valid and 
>>> does it also apply to the civil society members or has the caucus 
>>> changed its mind in the meantime?
>>>
>>> 2. Rule no. 4 defines as a requirements that the nominees "should 
>>> promote and defend the caucus positions
>>>>>  established by consensus before any MAG meeting [...] i.e. they 
>>>>> don't consider themselves as "acting in their individual capacity" 
>>>>> but as true representatives of the IGC." Why does the 2. rule 
>>>>> require that the candidates disclose their own positions if they are 
>>>>> expected to advance the positions of the caucus instead of their 
>>>>> own?
>>> 3. MAG members are appointed by the SG not by the caucus. What would a 
>>> recall process intend to achieve? That the SG changes his mind and 
>>> kicks  out the person? A bit far fetched I would say...
>>>
>>>
>>> In my view, it contributes to a clean process to ask all members to 
>>> apply again. What I don't find acceptable is to ignore our own 
>>> position paper on this issue that is in fact less than a month old and 
>>> enjoyed unusually broad consensus.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be to merge rule 2 and 4 into something more 
>>> consistent. For example, the nominee should be required to actively 
>>> participate in caucus discussions on matters that are on the MAG's 
>>> agenda. Active participation allows everyone to know and understand 
>>> the positions held be the nominee.
>>> In case the caucus manages to agree on a common position (which often 
>>> turns out to be impossible), the nominee should present that position 
>>> in the MAG meeting. If the nominee doesn't agree with the caucus 
>>> position, its more likely than not that consensus in the caucus 
>>> couldn't be reached to begin with.
>>> The "imperative mandate" which rule 4 seems to suggest is not helpful 
>>> in a multi-stakeholder environment such as the MAG where consensus 
>>> depends on open discussion, willingness to consider others points of 
>>> views and, above all, to compromise.
>>>
>>> Regarding the recall, the only thing I could imagine is that all 
>>> caucus nominees could be asked to commit themselves to step down in 
>>> case of a recall. We should take into consideration though that not 
>>> all cs members on the MAG got there through the blessing of the 
>>> caucus. There are other channels outside the reach of our rules.
>>>
>>> jeanette
>>>
>>>
>>> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>>> I sent my last message before reading this interesting and important 
>>>> analysis of Meryem's. I will consider the whole thing more carefully 
>>>> but my immediate reaction is that we can and should do this:
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> we have
>>>>> to collectively follow some minimal rules, like:
>>>>> 1. Consider a fresh start. Anyone can be (self-)nominated, of course 
>>>>> including those who have already been on the MAG 2. Consider only 
>>>>> nominations that come with a statement of intent from the candidate, 
>>>>> including which positions s/he would promote within the MAG 3. In 
>>>>> case the candidate has already been on the MAG, consider the 
>>>>> nomination only if it also comes with an accounting of what the 
>>>>> candidate has done so far 4. Establish some requirements that should 
>>>>> be followed by the
>>>>> nominee: e.g. they should promote and defend the caucus positions 
>>>>> established by consensus before any MAG meeting, and report to the 
>>>>> caucus after each meeting. i.e. they don't consider themselves as 
>>>>> "acting in their individual capacity" but as true representatives of 
>>>>> the IGC.
>>>>> 5. Make IGC nominees subject to a recall process, following the 
>>>>> rules established in the IGC charter (http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-
>>>>> charter_final-061014.html) for the recall of coordinators. Since the 
>>>>> MAG rules themselves consider that MAG members are acting in their 
>>>>> individual capacity, the success of a recall vote on an IGC 
>>>>> representative to the MAG would imply that the IGC officially and 
>>>>> publicly notifies the UN SG of the recall.
>>>> It seems to me we could do that while staying within the Nomcom 
>>>> process proposed by Lee et al. Those rules above would just be 
>>>> considered the ground rules for the NomCom.
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