[governance] User input to Internet architecture work

[Carlos Afonso]

Dear Phil, I understand all this, I know the transition will take a long 
time (but one day we will all be IPv6ers, right? transitions can be 
long, but they are still transitions), I know the tech community is keen 
to pay rigorous attention to all aspects of this and it should, I know 
there are very complex issues in all layers etc etc etc. This is not the 
point.

The point is there are several real processes going on and there seems 
to be few spaces dedicated to follow this up in a consolidated fashion 
from the point of view of the end user, the decision-maker or the 
journalist. This is not for me necessarily (as I follow the issues as 
much as I can), but for the public and particularly those 
constituencies. The European initiative I mention seems to promise this 
and seems a good start (clearly the people who created it understand 
what I am trying to say), but are there others, would this be the 
reference on this need etc?

There is obviously an effort which ought to be carried out outside of 
the laboratories to convince decision-makers of the importance of this 
process. For this, good, updated and reliable, well organized info which 
the "mortals" can understand (and grasp its relevance) is crucial.

[]s fraternos

--c.a.

Phil Regnauld wrote:
> Carlos Afonso (ca) writes:
>> A question for the ones engaged in this interesting thread: is there an 
>> Internet space (a Web site or similar) which is trying to consolidate and 
>> report regularly on the progress of IPv4->IPv6 transition? I know there are 
>> real tests being done in several countries, in large networks, and 
>> occasional ones, all bringing interesting conclusions (and best practices), 
>> but I have so far not found a space which gives us a vision of the whole 
>> process -- in my view, a great need for the ones preparing to (or fearing 
>> to) "migrate".
>>
>> Please note I am not talking about inner techie spaces, but something a 
>> journalist or a decision-maker (who is not a network techie) can read and 
>> understand. There is the IPv6 European Task Force portal (www.ipv6tf.org) 
>> which does something along the lines I am talking about. Is this *the* site 
>> people should be visiting?
> 
> 
> 	There is no single site.  There is no single transition.  There, is
> 	fact, no real transition to speak of.  IPv4 and IPv6 will coexist
> 	for a long time, as they are two different network protocols on the
> 	wire.  How far is the transition ?  To answer that question you'd have
> 	to actually be able to measure the amount of readyness of every internet-
> 	IPv4 connected organisation out there, with regards to IPv6.  This means:
> 
> 	- applications
> 	- clients
> 	- networks
> 
> 	(that's very much simplified).
> 
> 	If you want to get started, you're still stuck with reading
> 	what are mostly technical resources such as:
> 
> 	http://www.civil-tongue.net/clusterf
> 
> 	
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