[governance] Issues concerning standing IGC members

[Carlos Afonso]

I understand. In our case, machines collect the votes electronically and 
transfer collected data at the end of the poll day to a central server.

The receipt you mention is not on how the person voted, but a legal 
pre-printed receipt to prove the person voted, since in Brazil official 
elections' voting is mandatory (although of course you are not required 
to vote for anyone, ie, blank voting is permitted, but you have to show 
up at the polls).

Regarding Ecuador, well, as a computer professional you know e-voting is 
a system, not just an electronic voting box. Voting boxes and systems 
are usually built by private companies, the Ecuadorean contract was with 
a private company (no different in the usual business practice from a 
Diebold or any other). What really happened is open to a number of 
possibilities, but certainly if a government or political faction with 
enough power wants to tamper with elections, there are a number of ways 
to do it, and printing a receipt will not avoid it. In Brazil the 
e-voting system has reached a level of credibility in which it is no 
longer an issue for post-elections' disputes.

However, returning to my original point: I continue to find amazing that 
we take so much time to discuss a simple e-voting process for an 
informal group. Well, at least we know a little more about e-voting 
processes, but is this a central issue for our little election?

[]s fraternos

--c.a.

Yehuda Katz wrote:
> Carlos,
> 
> We are discussing Voting via the "Internet Voting" as opposed to "Electronic
> Voting" (Poll Hardware / DRE).
> 
> I understand that the Brazilians have made significant headway in "Electronic
> Voting", paperless etc.
> 
> My discourse is with pure "Internet Voting", such as we are part-taking in
> here.
> -
> 
> I will reference one incident in 2006:
> 
> Brazilian E-Vote Techie Jailed in Ecuador
> http://cbrayton.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/brazilian-e-vote-techie-jailed-in-ecuador/
> 
> And here the Authorities used "Hand Counting" to recount the vote, which means
> paper was involved. I will also point out that Paper is also used as the People
> check into the Polls to access the DRE machines, as part of formal registration
> processes. 
> -
> 
> It is interesting to read about Brazil's e-vote and 'The Supreme Electoral
> Court' Regulations for voting, and its reaching effects.
> [the TSE, the Portuguese acronym for Tribunal Superior Eleitoral] 
> 
> Ref.:
> 
> Brazil: Blogs banned from the 2008 elections [ENG]
> http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/30/brazil-blogs-banned-from-the-2008-elections/
> 
> Brasil: Blogues são proibidos nas eleições 2008 [PT]
> http://pt.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/30/brasil-blogues-sao-proibidos-das-eleicoes-2008/
> 
> Brasil: Prohíben blogs en las elecciones del 2008 [ES]
> http://es.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/04/brasil-prohiben-blogs-en-las-elecciones-de-2008/
> 
> -
> 
> Electronic voting
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting
> 
> DRE voting machines (Used in Brazil)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRE_voting_machine
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