[governance] Reconstituting MAG (Tech/admin language)

[Parminder]

Suresh

And this also has to do with my email to Bill in which I am still trying to
understand who all really are against the Meryem/ Ian text.

When you say 

Ian's wording below is much
 > more
 > preferable to previous variants I have seen. I withdraw my objection

Over an email in which Meryem refers also to the whole three paras of
Meryem/ Ian formulation

>> So why trying to entirely change the sense and the coherence of the
 >> whole paragraph, with a replacement proposal that is, on top of all
 >> this, nothing but a weaker repetition of the first two paragraphs of
>> the statement?


One is liable to take that all three paras as a combined text under
examination are ok by you. If not, you should I think expressly say it here,
otherwise it becomes difficult for someone trying to gather peoples view to
see what kind of consensus is being reached or not. 

Parminder

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh at hserus.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:23 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Meryem Marzouki'
> Subject: RE: [governance] Reconstituting MAG (Tech/admin language)
> 
> Hit send too soon, very early in the morning in SFO
> 
> However, it is essential to ensure broader and more inclusive CS
> participation while at the same time ensuring adequate participation from
> the technical community.
> 
> On the other hand, I'm quibbling here. Ian's wording below is much more
> preferable to previous variants I have seen. I withdraw my objection.
> 
> 	suresh
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:marzouki at ras.eu.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Reconstituting MAG (Tech/admin language)
> >
> >
> > Le 20 févr. 08 à 15:24, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
> >
> > >> However, their
> > >> representation should not be at the expense of broader civil society
> > >> participation.
> > >
> > > However, it is essential to ensure broader and more inclusive civil
> > > society
> > > participation
> > >
> > > That wording ok?
> >
> > No, Suresh. It's not OK. You're supposed to understand English better
> > than I do, but let me explain to you what's wrong with this:
> >
> > Ian's sentence ("However, their representation should not be at the
> > expense of broader civil society participation") was agreed as a
> > replacement to previous sentence ("However, their current over-
> > representation should be corrected"). Both sentences were proposed at
> > the end of the following paragraph: "We also agree that International
> > organizations having an important role in the development of Internet-
> > related technical standards and relevant policies should continue to
> > be represented in the MAG. <last sentence>."
> >
> > Even with limited English language skills, anyone would understand
> > that "their" refers to the " International organizations having an
> > important role in the development of Internet-related technical
> > standards and relevant policies", in other words, the so-called
> > "technical community". So we're talking about them in this paragraph,
> > sot talking about CS participation.
> >
> > So why trying to entirely change the sense and the coherence of the
> > whole paragraph, with a replacement proposal that is, on top of all
> > this, nothing but a weaker repetition of the first two paragraphs of
> > the statement? Are we kidding here?
> >
> >
> >
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