[governance] paragraph 69 and blacklists (was Senate OKs Immunity for Telecoms)

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sun Feb 17 01:19:22 EST 2008


On Feb 17, 2008 7:39 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>
> On Sun, February 17, 2008 8:38 am, Karl Auerbach wrote:
> > It is sad that on this list a very good person has been directly defamed
> > and insulted.  I have known John Gilmore for years.  He is neither "raving"
> > nor a "lunatic".
>
> Yes, that's why he calls paul vixie (say) a blackmailer. Sure.

Definitely beyond the pale, and a short step from there to net-kookery.

Block/black-listing is not inherently evil, but AFAIK, it's a service.
Organisations choose to use these services.

In other words, if org A didn't choose to use one of these services,
and your network is spewing, mail from you to user at orgA will be
delivered.  If orgA does use the service, and your network is clean,
then mail will be delivered.  It's only when orgA uses the service AND
your network has been flagged that your mail to orgA doesn't get
there.  Don't blame the lister(s), blame orgA or, more likely, correct
the problems in your own network.

I think the main question for us on this sub-topic is in re: para 69:

69. We further recognize the need for enhanced cooperation in the
future, to enable governments, on an equal footing, to carry out their
roles and responsibilities, in international public policy issues
pertaining to the Internet, but not in the day-to-day technical and
operational matters, that do not impact on international public policy
issues.

Is block/blacklisting a "day-to-day technical and operational matter"
that does not impact on international public policy issues?

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
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