[governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN

[carlos a. afonso]

Wow, Lee, bold statement: "not subordinated to anyone". So I guess the
zillions of pages written on how and why Icann should free itself from
the US government was actually about how many camels fit on a pinhead...

Grande descoberta!

--c.a.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lee McKnight" <lmcknigh at syr.edu>
To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>,<avri at psg.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:43:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN

> Avri,
> 
> I don't think we are talking about a radical change in IGF, more of a
> recognition of what de facto is already happening.
> 
> ICANN is not subordinated to anyone. ICANN has voluntarily
> participated
> in IGF from its founding, and organized sessions.
> 
> At those sessions, people have made positive and negative comments,
> and
> offered on-target and perhaps also off-target feedback to ICANN.
> 
> So we're just saying look at what's going on already at IGF, project
> ahead to where this is leading, and isn't that preferrable to keeping
> ICANN on a JPA leash indefinitely.  
> 
> Lee
> 
> Prof. Lee W. McKnight
> School of Information Studies
> Syracuse University
> +1-315-443-6891office
> +1-315-278-4392 mobile
> >>> avri at psg.com 02/06/08 5:16 PM >>>
> <currently under temporary part-time contract to the IGF secretariat 
> and an ICANN volunteer, but writing from my own perspective>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do not expect that the reason people might be against has to do
> with  
> laziness. I think it might have to do with the nature of the IGF as a
>  
> safe forum where everyone can meet to discuss the issues as peers,  
> including ICANN.  The IGP proposal would not only subordinate ICANN
> to  
> the rest of the peers, but would also force the group into becoming a
>  
> decision making body.  This would seem to me to be a radical change
> in  
> the nature of the forum.
> 
> Now, one could argue that the IGF should be a decision making body,  
> but most seem to believe that this is not what it was chartered to  
> be.  Also I expect that even if such were to be seen as a reasonable 
> step in a possible evolution of the IGF, and I am _not_ thinking it  
> is, it is certainly not a step that the IGF seems ready for.  At
> least  
> it does not seem that way to me.
> 
> a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 Feb 2008, at 22:05, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> 
> >
> > Some perceptive comments, Parminder.
> >
> > > So which is this IGF that wont like an ICANN accountable
> > > to it.... and why ?????
> >
> > The reason is that asking IGF to develop a process to review ICANN 
> > is like asking me or you to do calisthenics or go running every  
> > morning at 7 am. It is demanding work. It is far more comfortable
> to  
> > sleep. The requested subject may know perfectly well that
> performing  
> > this work is good for its health, and in fact may prolong its life 
> > for many years. But it still may not welcome the effort.
> > Milton Mueller
> > Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> > XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
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> >
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