[governance] communicating with our peers

[Carlos Afonso]

I am not sure "that great leak" is a good example -- it derived from a 
very serious attempt at forcing the way, and this had to be made known, 
unfortunately. Well, I assume we are talking about the same leak...

--c.a.

Adam Peake wrote:
> At 11:26 AM +0000 2/6/08, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>> Parminder wrote:
>>>> If you're just saying the civil society members don't report enough 
>>>> of what's being said, you're right.  We don't.
>>>
>>> That¹s the whole thing, the entire point of the discussion and not a 
>>> minor
>>> post-script to the discussion. Can we know and try to understand why we
>>> don¹t.
>>
>> Actually I am not sure if there has been any substantial issue that 
>> hasn't been reported by any of us.
> 
> 
> That's true.  Except the great leak, which I personally wouldn't have 
> reported, at the time I felt as bound by normal netiquette we expect of 
> private lists as much as any chatham house rule.
> 
> But I think some more frequent reporting could be helpful. Even if it's 
> just to say that nothing's happening.  The MAG list is not busy, about 
> 1400 messages since May 2006. Last 6 months:  44 in August, 112 
> September, 164 October, 136 November, 40 December, 39 January. During 
> those 6 months there was one Geneva consultation and the Rio meeting, 
> speaker discussions etc. Inevitable "me toos" and off topic stuff 
> included of course.
> 
> 
> This document from the time names were put forward might be helpful 
> <http://www.nomadicity.net/IGC-candidates-for-IGF-MAG.html> See criteria.
> 
> We weren't all or only nominated by the caucus, names the IGC put 
> forward were:
> 
> Adam Peake
> Chun Eunghwi
> Divina Frau-Meigs
> Gemma Brice (Ken) Lohento
> Gustavo Gindre Monteiro Soares
> Jeanette Hofmann
> Mawaki Chango
> Milton Mueller
> Parminder Jeet Singh
> Paul Byron Wilson
> Qusai AlShatti
> Rikke Frank Joergensen
> Robert Guerra
> Robin D. Gross
> William Drake
> 
>  From that list Adam Peake, Ken Lohento, Jeanette Hofmann, Qusai 
> AlShatti, Robin Gross became MAG members, along with Titilayo Akinsanmi 
> and  Erick Iriarte and chair's special advisors, (Nitin) Wolfgang 
> Kleinwächter and Jovan Kurbalija, and (Brazil) Carlos Afonso. (hope I'm 
> not missing anyone!)
> 
> 
> 
>> (Remember, it is not just Adam and me. We are about 6 if we include 
>> Wolfgang, the special adviser.) What I have noticed is that very often 
>> there is not much of a response from the caucus. For example, in early 
>> january I sent a long email that listed all the issues under 
>> discussion in the MAG including my own opinion in cases where I 
>> thought it might matter. From what I remember, Jeremy was the only one 
>> who took up at least one of the issues.
>> Such a weak feedback is not very encouraging, is it?
> 
> 
> I agree the lack of response from the caucus isn't helpful.
> 
> The consultation is now less than 3 weeks away. Are we prepared? There 
> was a very useful thread in November/December.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> jeanette
>>
>>>
>>> Please correct me if I am wrong but I think there was something in 
>>> the IGC's
>>> nomination process for MAG members that put some obligation on selected
>>> members to keep in regular contact with the group. Not merely 
>>> communicating
>>> the process details (which are important, and most have never 
>>> communicated
>>> even that) but also real substantive details. Basically to consider 
>>> the IGC
>>> and the groups it connects to as their primary constituency (or at 
>>> least one
>>> of their primary constituencies).
>>>
>>> Now that a two year term is over, and MAG may be renewed, can MAG 
>>> members
>>> who accepted to be nominated by the IGC get involved with the IGC about
>>> assessing these two years and the role of IGC nominated MAG members and
>>> related issues?
>>>
>>>  I think we should seek from all positions, including co-cordinators 
>>> such
>>> accountability extracting questions. Unlike governments and the private
>>> sector, civil society has no direct and simple accountability 
>>> mechanisms. A
>>> lot of questions, some uncomfortable ones, therefore is a basic and
>>> necessary part of accountability in public life. 
>>> Those who are too sensitive to any such public questioning and
>>> accountabilities at all should in my opinion stay away from these public
>>> roles (I say it matter-of-factly and with no judgment of people and 
>>> their
>>> choices and values).
>>>
>>> Parminder
> 
> 

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