[governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
Jeanette Hofmann
jeanette at wzb.eu
Fri Dec 12 11:44:50 EST 2008
Hi, just to understand it better, is this a proposal to merge the old
openness topic with the access topic and thereby create something new or
more comprehensive?
thanks, jeanette
Lee W McKnight wrote:
> Ian,
>
> I agree 'Open and Universal Internet Access' as a broad theme can cover
> a range of topical areas.
>
> Including both Rights and Critical Internet Resources for example.
>
> Lee
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Sent: Thu 12/11/2008 3:12 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Lee W McKnight
> Subject: RE: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
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> I like the concept of broadening access to include, for instance
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> * equitable access to carriage for content providers (often discussed within
> the net neutrality debate)
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> * access to content without interference (the censorship debate)
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> * access to devices for applications (the open systems debate, the end to
> end debate)
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> Add these to physical access and you have an interesting set of issues to
> look at.
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> Ian Peter
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> From: Lee W McKnight [mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu]
> Sent: 12 December 2008 06:58
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: RE: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
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> I like 'Open and Universal Internet Access'as theme.
>
> Yeah I know you're all tired of word access but maybe I mean something
> different.
>
> Theme can be interpreted as about Internet rights, development, markets,
> policy and/or technology.
>
> Lee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Sent: Thu 12/11/2008 2:22 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: RE: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
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> In addition to the rights theme, or perhaps in association with it, I would
> like to see a new theme of Public Policy and the Internet.
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> Internet Governance bodies do not all handle public policy consistently or
> in some cases at all. I think there is a lot we can gain by examining this
> in more detail.
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> Ian Peter
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> From: Max Senges [mailto:maxsenges at gmail.com]
> Sent: 12 December 2008 03:02
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki; Parminder
> Subject: Re: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
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>
>
> Hello
>
> I also want to thank Janette to start the discussion about next years
> themes. Naturally the focus of the Internet Rights and Principles [1]
> coalition is to promote a "Rights based approach to Internet Governance" as
> main theme.
>
> We plan to have a mid-term meeting in Rome which we can use to coordinate
> and prepare events with a Rights and Principles focus.
>
> If you are interested in pushing a "Rights based approach to Internet
> Governance" as main IGF theme 2009 please join our discussion on
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights
>
> best
> max
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>
> [1] we have the name change from Internet Bill of Rights on our agenda for
> next weeks monthly meeting.
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> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Meryem Marzouki <marzouki at ras.eu.org>
> wrote:
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've thought that, for 60 years and one day
> now, there is no question on whether one buys or not into a right approach.
> The only remaining question, in any new context - like, here, IG - being
> how.
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> Le 11 déc. 08 à 15:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
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> Meryem Marzouki wrote:
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> Le 11 déc. 08 à 12:55, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
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> Ralf Bendrath wrote:
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> As I
> said there, I am a bit sceptical if it's a good idea to put human rights
> up for discussion, but this probably depends on the framing. "Translating
> and implementing human rights for IG" would go in the right direction.
>
>
> Yes, one could also frame it a bit broader such as 'the role of rights in
> IG'. That would make certainly a good main session. I spoke against the
> 'rights based approach to IG' as an overall theme at the caucus meeting but
> I would support this topic for a main session.
>
> I don't see what "the role of rights in IG" (or in anything else) could
> mean.
>
>
> I meant to frame it in a way that integrates people who have concerns with a
> rights based approach. "Towards" suggests that all participants buy into
> this approach.
> jeanette
>
> Let's frame it differently, e.g. "Towards an IG framework
>
> compliant with human rights and democratic principles" or something with
> similar meaning. This, BTW, would allow to keep the issue of access on the
> table, although framed
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