[governance] Themes for the coming IGFs: human rights and

[Divina MEIGS]

Hi everybody,

I don¹t often contribute to this list and I hope you won¹t mind my
intervention.

I would like to support a ³human rights² based internet governance,
especially in view of all the infringements of such rights today, in all
countries, France none the least. Yesterday, during the celebrations of the
human rights declaration, one of our intellectuals, Regis Debray, has
criticized the human rights as the degree zero of politics and as a tool for
politicians who have no ideas. I find this very reactionnary, offensive and
irresponsible... And I think we should try to prove him wrong...

There is another issue that has been bothering me for several years of
attendance at WSIS and IGF meetings: we never talk about labour. And yet
ICTs are affecting the way we work, the way we are paid, the way we are
evaluated, the way we can retire and all the other solidarity mechanisms
around employment and unemployement. I can see it in our universities where
there is also an increasing gap between the way we train students and the
kind of jobs they get at the exit... So indeed, I would like to see more
involvement of the private sector to discuss these issues, maybe with trade
unions as guests of honor... since they are conspicuously absent !!

So let¹s say  that my priorities for themes for the next two IGFs would be=
    1) human rights based internet governance, for 2009, as we could make it
coincide with other celebrations around the theme ... and as many of us have
been pushing for this issue ;
    2) labor and internet governance, for 2010, as we should come to grips
with the territorial consequences of virtual worlds...

Sorry i missed you all in Hyderabad!

Best
Divina Frau-Meigs


Le 12/12/08 3:17, « shaila mistry » <shailam at yahoo.com> a écrit :

> Hi 
> As an Internet Bill of Rights IBR advocate I support Rights based theme for
> the next IGF conference. In addition I also suggest we encourage greater
> involvement from private sector, particularly the small and medium business.
> Learning from the buisness model will assist us greatly . Perhaps we could
> make this a sub theme : lessons from the private sector model.
>  
> I am still in Chennai...will contribute more later
>  
> Shaila Rao Mistry
>  
> be as a well......sure and limitless....
> but as time befits.....assume other forms ....
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki <marzouki at ras.eu.org>;
> Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:32:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
> 
> Hello 
> 
> I also want to thank Janette to start the discussion about next years themes.
> Naturally the focus of the Internet Rights and Principles [1]  coalition is to
> promote a "Rights based approach to Internet Governance" as main theme.
> 
> We plan to have a mid-term meeting in Rome which we can use to coordinate and
> prepare events with a Rights and Principles focus.
> 
> If you are interested in pushing a "Rights based approach to Internet
> Governance" as main IGF theme 2009  please join our discussion on
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/bill-of-rights
> 
> best
> max
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1] we have the name change from Internet Bill of Rights on our agenda for
> next weeks monthly meeting.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Meryem Marzouki <marzouki at ras.eu.org> wrote:
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've thought that, for 60 years and one day now,
>> there is no question on whether one buys or not into a right approach. The
>> only remaining question, in any new context - like, here, IG - being how.
>> 
>> Le 11 déc. 08 à 15:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>>> Le 11 déc. 08 à 12:55, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralf Bendrath wrote:
>>>>>>  As I
>>>>>> said there, I am a bit sceptical if it's a good idea to put human rights
>>>>>> up for discussion, but this probably depends on the framing. "Translating
>>>>>> and implementing human rights for IG" would go in the right direction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, one could also frame it a bit broader such as 'the role of rights in
>>>>> IG'. That would make certainly a good main session. I spoke against the
>>>>> 'rights based approach to IG' as an overall theme at the caucus meeting
>>>>> but I would support this topic for a main session.
>>>> I don't see what "the role of rights in IG" (or in anything else) could
>>>> mean.
>>> 
>>> I meant to frame it in a way that integrates people who have concerns with a
>>> rights based approach. "Towards" suggests that all participants buy into
>>> this approach.
>>> jeanette
>>> 
>>> Let's frame it differently, e.g. "Towards an IG framework
>>>> compliant with human rights and democratic principles" or something with
>>>> similar meaning. This, BTW, would allow to keep the issue of access on the
>>>> table, although framed
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