[governance] rights based approach to the Internet

[Parminder]

> Let me see if I understand -- two members of the self-attributed
> "technical community" (who by their definition would be curiously
> detached from the real world of business or government or civil society
> -- they are just "technical") are trying to depose Parm from his
> coordinator role on political grounds?? Or for just "writing too much"??
> Where are we going to here??

No problems, Carlos. Ousting attempts are normal in political contexts :).
And unlike the two protagonists I am very clear about the political nature
of my role and position, which cant but be so when the IGC itself as per its
charter is political. Parminder 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Afonso [mailto:ca at rits.org.br]
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:33 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> 
> Let me see if I understand -- two members of the self-attributed
> "technical community" (who by their definition would be curiously
> detached from the real world of business or government or civil society
> -- they are just "technical") are trying to depose Parm from his
> coordinator role on political grounds?? Or for just "writing too much"??
> Where are we going to here??
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> McTim wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
> > <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> >> McTim [14/04/08 16:51 +0300]:
> >>
> >>
> >>> This is not even a bad caricature of what I have been expounding, it's
> >>> a plain falsehood.
> >>>
> >>> I DO tell you to trim your mails, but you never do.
> >>>
> >>> As Bill said, not interested in spending time on conversations not
> >>> conducted in good faith.
> >>>
> >>  I dont know about bad faith but there is a definite communication gap
> here,
> >>  and it is perhaps compounded by Parminder not being very aware of
> technical
> >>  PDP issues.
> >>
> >>  I would suggest that - entirely in the interest of consensus and
> meaning no
> >>  disrespect to his CS credentials, or his excellent work in IT For
> Change,
> >>  he recuse himself from his role as coordinator, and coordination be
> taken
> >>  over by Bill Drake, Adam, Meryem, Jeanette Hoffman or some others on
> the
> >>  list.
> >
> > I support this idea.
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html says:
> >
> > Duties of Coordinators
> >
> > The first and most important duty of the coordinator(s) is to
> > facilitate the discussions and enable the members of the caucus to
> > reach consensus whenever possible.
> >
> > IMHO, discussions aren't being so much facilitated, as much as they
> > are being directed by  the coordinator's political philosophy, which
> > doesn't tolerate reality (or realpolitik).
> >
> 
> --
> 
> Carlos A. Afonso
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> conselheiro, CGI.br (Comitê Gestor da Internet no Brasil)
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