[governance] Where are we with IGC workshops?

[Meryem Marzouki]

Hi all,

Where are we with IGC workshop proposals, since deadline is April 30?
 From previous messages, the following ideas emerged:

1- "Role and Mandate of IGF" (follow-up of last year workshop. I  
would rephrase title as: "Role, Structure and Mandate of the IGF")
2- "Critical Internet Resources" (title to be reworked)
3- "IG and global jurisdiction - political, legal, contractual,  
technical and private means/instruments" (what does "private" refer  
to here? Isn't this covered by "contractual"?)
4- "Coexistence of commercial and non-profit spaces on the Internet -  
implications for IG" (I would rephrase as: "Commons, public service  
and commercial values: IG issues for their pacific coexistence")

Let aside the question of co-sponsorship by other stakeholders, that  
we could explore later in the process:
- workshop #1 should be the main IGC workshop
- workshops 2, 3 and 4 could be co-organized/merged with similar  
proposals from other CS consituencies, provided they agree, of course  
(e.g. IGP mentioned its plans to organize a workshop on issue #3,  
ITfC have plans on issue #4 if I well remember, etc.).
- I'm wondering whether workshop #2 issues couldn't be dealt with in  
workshop #4, thus restricting our plans to 3 workshops?

Besides this, the IGC obviously may decide to co-sponsor other  
workshops, once they are defined and submitted to its members for co- 
sponsorship.

I would then suggest at this step that we collectively (and quickly)  
work in priority on proposals for workshops #1, #3 and #4.

Best,
Meryem

Le 30 mars 08 à 11:36, Parminder a écrit :

> My suggestions...
>
>> 2- "Critical Internet resources"
>> or whatever this may me called. Adam's proposing "Arrangements for
>> Internet governance", but I'm afraid this title may be misleading. I
>> think the idea is the same, however)
>
> Istn this too generic as stated here. I could not understand what  
> would
> 'arrangements for IG' stand for.
>
> On the other hand, Meryem, in this list of 3 you did not include the
> proposal for a workshop on nonprofit/ public/ welfare aspect of the  
> Internet
> and its implications for IG. Some support for this workshop has been
> expressed, and some discussion taken place. The last was about  
> naming it
> something like
>
> "Coexistence of commercial and non-profit spaces on the Internet
> -- implications for IG"
>
> But I think it will need some more work... Meanwhile it is  
> interesting to
> note that Council or Europe in its recent resolution (at
> https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?Ref=CM/Rec(2008)6 ) further expound  
> the
> 'public value' aspect of the Internet that it has been speaking  
> about for
> some time now.
>
> To quote
>
> " Aware of the public service value of the Internet, understood as  
> people’s
> significant reliance on the Internet as an essential tool for their  
> everyday
> activities (communication, information, knowledge, commercial  
> transactions,
> entertainment) and the resulting legitimate expectation that Internet
> services be accessible, affordable, secure, reliable and ongoing and
> recalling in this regard Recommendation Rec(2007)16 of the  
> Committee of
> Ministers on measures to promote the public service value of the  
> Internet."
>
> I think this is an important 'higher level' issue for IG that CS  
> must push.
> And therefore a workshop on this issue of public value or  
> publicness of the
> Internet will be useful.
>
>> 3- "Technical and contractual means of law enforcement and control:
>> revising the competence of jurisdictions?"
>> This may be rewritten, but I hope you get the idea.
>
> There is good agreement on a workshop roughly around this topic,  
> but again
> this needs more work. I suggest something like - "IG and global  
> jurisdiction
> - political, legal, contractual, technical and private means/ 
> instruments'. I
> know this is spectacularly inelegant, but just contributing this as a
> general idea of what its content can be.
>
> And we may do a place-holder for present - with something shorter and
> crisper - and expound the idea further as we prepare the final  
> format and
> title for the workshop.
>
> Parminder
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:marzouki at ras.eu.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:12 PM
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] workshop deadline: April 30
>>
>> Hi Parminder and all,
>>
>> Le 25 mars 08 à 13:50, Parminder a écrit :
>>>
>>> As proposed earlier I do think we should submit a few strong
>>> proposals...
>>>
>>> I had given a call for IGC sponsored workshop proposals on 12th
>>> March. We
>>> have little time left to the 30th, so lets get on with it.
>>
>> Note it's April 30, not March 30. But still, not that much time to
>> achieve this:)
>>
>>> We saw discussions on two possible topics, in the last few weeks
>>> (pl point
>>> out if any other has figured, and I haven't mentioned it here)
>>
>> I share Bill's and your suggestion to concentrate on 2-3 well defined
>> IGC workshops, with co-sponsorship possibilities for other workshops.
>>
>> I support these three themes, for IGC workshops:
>>
>> 1- "Role and Mandate of IGF" (follow-up of last year workshop)
>>
>> 2- "Critical Internet resources"
>> or whatever this may me called. Adam's proposing "Arrangements for
>> Internet governance", but I'm afraid this title may be misleading. I
>> think the idea is the same, however)
>>
>> 3- "Technical and contractual means of law enforcement and control:
>> revising the competence of jurisdictions?"
>> This may be rewritten, but I hope you get the idea. The point is that
>> if we organize a workshop on "cross-country jurisdiction issues", I'm
>> afraid we'll fall into years-old very specific and technical legal
>> debates, while not addressing the main point w.r.t. Internet
>> governance, which is how technical and contractual means are used to
>> circumvent national laws (sovereignty issue but also breaches of the
>> rule of law), to circumvent or overcome the competence of
>> jurisdiction issue, as well as to insidiously establish non legal
>> standards. Thus, it's a wider topic.
>> Re: technical means, we touch on the issue of IPR as well as on
>> content regulation through filtering
>> Re: contractual means, we can deal with notice and take down
>> procedures, etc. (most recent example of such case: Network Solutions
>> - as host provider, not as registrar - suspending the
>> fitnathemovie.com website, see: http://newsroom.networksolutions.com/
>> 2008/network-solutions-statement-on-fitnathemoviecom/)
>> It seems to me that this would allow, more generally, to discuss all
>> the issues synthetized in Willie's message (http://lists.cpsr.org/
>> lists/arc/governance/2008-03/msg00147.html).
>>
>> Best,
>> Meryem
>>
>>>
>>> Roughly put they are
>>>
>>> - cross-country jurisdiction issues in IG
>>>
>>> - Commercial or welfare-based nature of the Internet -
>>> Implications for IG
>>>
>>> And we do certainly want to make our last year's workshop on  
>>> 'role and
>>> mandate of the IGF' into an annual affair.
>>>
>>> And as Adam suggests, the issues we proposed in Feb for main themes
>>> can be
>>> rehashed as IGC sponsored workshops. These are
>>>
>>> 1. Enhanced Cooperation - What Was Meant By the Tunis Agenda, and
>>> What Is
>>> the Status of It
>>>
>>> 2. Network Neutrality - Ensuring Openness in All Layers of the
>>> Internet
>>>
>>> 3. A Development Agenda for Internet Governance
>>>
>>> 4. Transparency and Inclusive Participation in Internet Governance
>>>
>>> (detailed text as per caucus's consensus statement to Feb
>>> consultations is
>>> given below)
>>>
>>> Parminder
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Enhanced Cooperation - What Was Meant By the Tunis Agenda, and
>>> What Is
>>> the Status of It
>>>
>>> Tunis Agenda speaks of the need for 'enhanced cooperation' for  
>>> global
>>> Internet policy making. There are different views about what
>>> exactly is
>>> meant by this term, and what processes will/ can constitute  
>>> 'enhanced
>>> cooperation'. IGF is the right forum to deliberate on the meaning  
>>> and
>>> possibilities of this term, through wide participation of all
>>> stakeholders
>>> in the multi-stakeholder spirit of the WSIS.  It is quite possible
>>> that such
>>> an open discussion pushes the process of 'enhanced cooperation'
>>> forward,
>>> which at present seems to be caught in a kind of a limbo, or at
>>> least some
>>> degree of confusion.
>>>
>>> 2. Network Neutrality - Ensuring Openness in All Layers of the
>>> Internet
>>>
>>> Network neutrality has been an important architectural principle
>>> for the
>>> Internet. This principle is under considerable challenge as
>>> Internet becomes
>>> the mainstream communication platform for almost all business and
>>> social
>>> activities. These challenges are most manifest in the physical
>>> layer, but
>>> also increasingly in the content and application layers. This
>>> session will
>>> examine the implication of this principle, and its possible
>>> evolutionary
>>> interpretations, for Internet policy in different areas.
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. A Development Agenda for Internet Governance
>>>
>>> Development is a key focus of the Tunis Agenda and its mandate for
>>> the IGF.
>>> Development also was listed as a cross-cutting theme of the Athens
>>> and Rio
>>> conferences, but neither featured a main session that devoted
>>> significant,
>>> focused attention to the linkages between Internet governance
>>> mechanisms and
>>> development.  However, at Rio a workshop was organized by civil
>>> society
>>> actors in collaboration with the Swiss Office of Communications and
>>> other
>>> partners from all stakeholder groupings on, "Toward a Development
>>> Agenda for
>>> Internet Governance."  The workshop considered the options for
>>> establishing
>>> a holistic program of analysis and action that would help mainstream
>>> development considerations into Internet governance decision making
>>> processes.
>>>
>>> Attendees at this workshop expressed strong interest in further
>>> work on the
>>> topic being pursued in the IGF.  Hence, we believe the Development
>>> Agenda
>>> concept should be taken up in a main session at Hyderabad, and that
>>> this
>>> would be of keen interest to a great many participants there.  We  
>>> also
>>> support the Swiss government's proposal to consider establishing a
>>> multi-stakeholder Working Group that could develop recommendations
>>> to the
>>> IGF on a development agenda.
>>>
>>> 4. Transparency and Inclusive Participation in Internet Governance
>>>
>>> The WSIS principles hold that Internet governance processes  
>>> "should be
>>> multilateral, transparent and democratic, with the full  
>>> involvement of
>>> governments, the private sector, civil society and international
>>> organizations." Governments invoked these principles throughout the
>>> WSIS
>>> process, and in the Tunis Agenda mandated the IGF to, "promote and
>>> assess,
>>> on an ongoing basis, the embodiment of WSIS principles in Internet
>>> Governance processes."  Nevertheless, the IGF has not held any
>>> follow-up
>>> discussion on how to pursue this key element of its mandate.  The
>>> Internet
>>> Governance Caucus has consistently advocated programmatic activity
>>> in this
>>> arena, and hence welcomes the Swiss government's statement that
>>> implementation of the WSIS principles should be added as a cross-
>>> cutting
>>> issue at the core of all IGF discussions.  To help kick-start that
>>> cross-cutting consideration, we propose that a main session in
>>> Hyderabad
>>> concentrate on two WSIS principles of general applicability for  
>>> which
>>> progress in implementation can be most readily
>>> assessed: transparency, and inclusive participation.  The session
>>> could
>>> consider patterns of practice across Internet governance
>>> mechanisms, and
>>> identify generalizable lessons concerning good or best practices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:37 PM
>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>>> Subject: [governance] workshop deadline: April 30
>>>>
>>>> Deadline for the submission of proposals for workshops, best  
>>>> practice
>>>> forums and open forums is 30 April 2008. Not many weeks away.  
>>>> Details
>>>> in the MAG meeting report
>>>> <http://www.intgovforum.org/Feb_igf_meeting/MAG.Summary.
>>>> 28.02.2008.v2.pdf>
>>>> and most of the relevant information copied below.
>>>>
>>>> Issues the caucus recommended in contributions for the last
>>>> consultation have not all be included. It would not hurt to quickly
>>>> re-submit those comments (amended to take account of the MAG's
>>>> report).
>>>>
>>>> Again, if you organized a workshop in Rio and have not yet  
>>>> submitted
>>>> a report, please do so. (about 80 events in Rio and
>>>> <http://www.intgovforum.org/rio_reports/rio_reports.html> not many
>>>> have submitted a report, which if anyone really cares about the IGF
>>>> producing outcomes, is a bit silly.)
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Draft Programme Outline
>>>>
>>>> General programming principles:
>>>> * Two days with general themes and main sessions focused on  
>>>> specific
>>>> issues and not general overviews.
>>>> * Some workshops could be held on themes defined by the MAG (main
>>>> workshops), but organized by others who respond to a call for
>>>> proposals.
>>>> * Main workshops, which are linked to the main sessions and  
>>>> workshops
>>>> on the four Athens themes, are not to be held in parallel to main
>>>> sessions.
>>>> * Other workshops may be held in parallel to the main sessions,
>>>> depending on the quantity and quality of the proposals.
>>>> * All organizers of events (workshops, best practices etc) will be
>>>> asked to commit themselves to submit a report on their event.
>>>> Non-submission of a report will disqualify the organizer for the
>>>> following year.
>>>> * Preference will be given in 2008 to those who did submit a report
>>>> for 2007. (Submission of reports is still possible and encouraged.)
>>>> * No official meetings starting after 1800 hours.
>>>> * No official meetings during the lunch-break between 1300-1400
>>>> hours.
>>>> * Further efforts will be made to enable remote participation
>>>> * Efforts will be made to publish the proceedings of the meeting  
>>>> also
>>>> in other formats.
>>>>
>>>> 3 December
>>>> Curtain raiser, tutorials, workshops Opening ceremony/Opening  
>>>> session
>>>>
>>>> 4 December
>>>> Theme:
>>>> Universalization of the Internet - How to reach the next billion
>>>> (alternate title: Expanding the Internet)
>>>> 1100 - 1300: Low cost sustainable access
>>>> 1400 - 1600: Multilingualization
>>>> 1630 - 1830: Implications for development policy
>>>>
>>>> Host Country Reception
>>>>
>>>> 5 December
>>>> Theme: Managing the Internet (alternate title: Using the Internet)
>>>> 1100 - 1300: Critical Internet resources
>>>> 1400 - 1600: Arrangements for Internet governance
>>>> 1630 - 1830: Global cooperation for Internet security and stability
>>>>
>>>> 6 December
>>>> 0900 - 1100: Taking stock and the way forward
>>>> 1130 - 1300: Debate
>>>> 1400 - 1600: Emerging issues
>>>> 1630 - 1800: Closing Ceremony
>>>>
>>>> Notes from the discussion:
>>>>
>>>> The discussion on the two schedules and on possible topics took on
>>>> the character of a brain storming session that would provide a
>>>> starting point for discussion in the MAG and the wider IGF  
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> Some of the points that were brought out include:
>>>> * The planning for 2008 should take into account the Chairman's
>>>> Summary of the Rio meeting and look at the lessons learned and  
>>>> issues
>>>> raised in the previous meetings.
>>>> * Possible focused topics for "Low cost sustainable access" could
>>>> include the role of entrepreneurship in providing low cost
>>>> sustainable access with a special focus on entrepreneurship and
>>>> India's success.
>>>> * The scope of "Managing the Internet" topic could focus on
>>>> international, national or local management of the Internet or the
>>>> relationship among the three levels.
>>>> * Possible focused topics for "Critical Internet resources"  
>>>> include:
>>>> * Enabling growth and innovation
>>>> * Capacity building
>>>> * The role of public private partnership in managing the Internet
>>>> * Transition from IPv4 to IPv6
>>>> * Governance issues in promoting the adoption of IPv6
>>>> * Topics beyond IP addressing
>>>> * Possible Debate topics:
>>>> * IPR and innovation for development
>>>> * Privacy and protection of children
>>>> * Relationship between security and privacy
>>>> * The "Taking Stock and the Way Forward" session could include an
>>>> evaluation of the IGF in regard to its mandate
>>>>
>>>> * Other comments:
>>>> * Freedom of Expression should have a dedicated session, though  
>>>> there
>>>> was a question whether the IGF was the appropriate forum to discuss
>>>> this issue.
>>>> * Should the topic on innovations be discussed under
>>>> * Emerging Issues
>>>> * Universalization of the Internet.
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