[governance] RE: Human rights and new gTLDs

[Lee McKnight]

Now I have to speak up as a friend & former colleague of the besmirched
Clark, Sollins, Wroclawski - Milton of course they know poltiical
economy 101, folks like me and Marjorie Blumenthal spent years tutoring
them. Maybe they didn't 20 years ago, but by 5 years ago they all did.
Now getting them to reference anyone outside their space...well who
cares.

Still you'd prefer they use a more boring title like 'Interest group
politics in cyberspace'? or the always handy 'Political Conflict and
Cooperation in Cyberspace'?  That's our job! ; )

Their point I believe was from the level of analysis required for core
network protocol design the political struggle above is largely
significant to note simply in that it is taking place, and it can have
an impact on implementation and adoption.  Who wins/who loses though
ICANN or IGF or any other mechanism like it is somebody else's concern -
like all of ours. 

So, in sum, if Avri makes a political compromise and justifies it
because Clark said it is ok to recognize a tussle when it is taking
place, hey that''s her choice. 

Lee

Prof. Lee W. McKnight
School of Information Studies
Syracuse University
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>>> mueller at syr.edu 9/26/2007 2:09 PM >>>
>Clark, Sollins, Wroclawski and Braden in a 2002  
>paper titled "Tussle in Cyberspace: Defining Tomorrow's 
>Internet". their basic premise is "... one important 
>reality that surrounds the Internet today: different 
>stakeholders that are part of the Internet have 
>interests that may be adverse to each other, and these 
>parties vie to favor their particular interests." 
>Their emphasis in the paper was mostly architectural, 
>but it applies to policy as well.  i think.

This is so.....IETF. What you have there, Avri, is a simple statement
of
what any political scientist or political economist would call
interest
group politics. But instead of recognizing that there are, in fact,
other disciplines that have relevant knowledge to contribute to our
understanding of what is happening to the Internet, and seeking out
how
those concepts have been developed in other literatures (including
other
ICTs), Clark et al invent their own word and their own literature and
proceed in their own insular world. All of the authors you cite are
brilliant network protocol designers and internet architects, and
worldly-smart in a large number of other ways, but it gets tiresome to
deal with this insularity sometimes. 
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