[governance] Speakers for IGF
Jeanette Hofmann
jeanette at wzb.eu
Fri Sep 14 09:26:48 EDT 2007
Hi, I would like to nominate Anriette Esterhuysen for the opening
ceremony or for the access panel, and I would like to nominate Milton
Mueller for the Critical Internet Resources panel.
jeanette
Parminder schrieb:
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> Hi All
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> For some reasons the process of nominating speakers from IGC to IGF is
> not working. And I wonder what is it that I could have done better.
> Suggestions are welcome. I enclose my email dated this Monday, where I
> had requested for nominations for speakers (including self-nomination).
> I had mentioned a couple of guiding conditions, and also had asked for
> 2-4 lines of justification why these speakers should be nominated (1)
> generally and (2) specifically by the IGC. I will add something I failed
> to mention in the aforesaid mail. Please also indicate the session for
> which the speaker is being recommended.
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> It appears that the IGF secretariat may be open to consider names even
> after the indicated end-date which passed yesterday, esp if it comes
> from an entity like the IGC. But we need to hurry up. I propose to close
> taking in names by end of tomorrow ie 15^th . By tomorrow Vittorio and I
> will try to come out of a small noncom, which will decide by the stated
> criteria mostly regarding balance of views and other balances, and
> submit names on the behalf of the IGC by 17^th day end.
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> To get our nominated speakers in IGF session is important both from a
> ‘substantive’ viewpoint, as from process viewpoint in terms of keeping
> our stakeholder-ship in the whole IGF process alive and kicking.
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> So I request everyone to treat this as a matter of urgent importance.
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> Parminder
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> Betreff:
> [governance] speakers for IGF
> Von:
> "Parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Datum:
> Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:09:37 +0530
> An:
> <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "'Lee McKnight'" <LMcKnigh at syr.edu>,
> <dogwallah at gmail.com>, "'Avri Doria'" <avri at psg.com>
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> An:
> <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "'Lee McKnight'" <LMcKnigh at syr.edu>,
> <dogwallah at gmail.com>, "'Avri Doria'" <avri at psg.com>
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> I had not seen the deadline for submitting names for panelists - and I now
> see that it is the day after, on the 12th. I would say it is rather
> short...
> but we need to do what we can for this.
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> So, I will suggest that everyone gives names for panelists to vittorio's
> and
> my email id. NOT TO THE IGC ID, because if there is to be a selection
> process, which we still have to discuss and finalize, it wont be right to
> have all names in public first.
>
> Each suggested name should be specific to one of the five main thematic
> panels plus one for the emerging issues panel. Please add two to four lines
> justifying why these names are appropriate for the panels and also why they
> should be FORWARDED BY OR THROUGH THE IGC as speakers....
>
> (1) Some involvement with the IGC or other collective CS processes is
> preferable, but not necessary if the suggested person and her perspectives
> STRONGLY meet the condition 2 and/or 3 below. I put this criterion because
> we are a platform of collective CS action, and panelists can also be
> suggested directly to the IGF secretariat by any person.
>
> (2) While suggesting names, it is important to keep in mind various
> positions and perspectives that have been adopted and/ or strongly
> discussed
> in the IGC. In general, 'progressive' views normally associated with civil
> society should also be a criterion.
>
> (3) Representing a 'CS view' or 'IGC view' is am important but not the only
> objective of this process, and if some speakers can be expected to greatly
> contribute in enriching the debate in the respective thematic area, that
> should itself be a good justification.
>
> (4) Diversity of geography, gender, technical/ developmental/ social
> background, special interest groups etc should be kept in mind.
>
> (5) As per some discussions on this list, it will also be useful to connect
> workshops to main themes through suggesting panelists from among workshop
> speakers.
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> (6) anyone recommended should already be planning to be in rio.
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> (these criterion will be further evolved if a selection process is adopted.
> Vittorio is still to give his comments, but I thought I should start the
> process because there isnt much time)
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> I will request the secretariat to extend the deadline to 17th so we have a
> week, but I cant be sure they will do it. Others who have some leverage
> with
> the secretariat may also try to do so.
>
> Parminder
> ________________________________________________
> Parminder Jeet Singh
> IT for Change, Bangalore
> Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities
> Tel: (+91-80) 2665 4134, 2653 6890
> Fax: (+91-80) 4146 1055
> www.ITforChange.net
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:09 AM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Lee McKnight'; dogwallah at gmail.com;
> 'Avri
> > Doria'
> > Subject: RE: [governance] tick, tick, tick...
> >
> > > I keep hoping the list will get back to its day job of, say,
> discussing
> > > whom might be recommended by the CS community to speak to which topic
> > > at IGF.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks Lee, Vittorio and I are conferring on it, and will come out
> with a
> > scheme for this within the next 24 hours.
> >
> > Parminder
> >
> > ________________________________________________
> > Parminder Jeet Singh
> > IT for Change, Bangalore
> > Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities
> > Tel: (+91-80) 2665 4134, 2653 6890
> > Fax: (+91-80) 4146 1055
> > www.ITforChange.net
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lee McKnight [mailto:LMcKnigh at syr.edu]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:39 AM
> > > To: dogwallah at gmail.com; governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
> > > Subject: [governance] tick, tick, tick...
> > >
> > > Everyone,
> > >
> > > I keep hoping the list will get back to its day job of, say,
> discussing
> > > whom might be recommended by the CS community to speak to which topic
> > > at IGF.
> > >
> > > Since, according to my 2-bit clock, IGF is now 2 months away.
> > >
> > > So great we have a decent agenda, and a good lineup of plenaries, but
> > > still it's looking like an empty shell at the moment...and the
> clock is
> > > ticking.
> > >
> > > Can our fearless and hopefully collegially speaking co-coordinators
> > > suggest some next steps to move things forward? Parminder? Vittorio?
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Prof. Lee W. McKnight
> > > School of Information Studies
> > > Syracuse University
> > > +1-315-443-6891office
> > > +1-315-278-4392 mobile
> > >
> > > >>> dogwallah at gmail.com 9/9/2007 9:11 PM >>>
> > > Hi Avri,
> > >
> > > On 9/8/07, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8 sep 2007, at 14.32, McTim wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > MM
> > > > >> And there are serious policy debates even within IETF about the
> > > > >> bloc size of IPv6 address distributions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, no. The IETF stuck a fork in that one long ago. I think
> > > it
> > > > > was RFC3513 (or maybe 3531, I've always been dyslexic about those
> > > > > two.) Again all this info is widely available on IETF/RIR lists.
> > > I
> > > > > encourage you to join them or read their archives if you really
> > > wwant
> > > > > to gain "expertise" in these fields.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > actually they have been bickering about it again. check out the
> > > > threads:
> > > >
> > > > IPv6 addresses really are scarce after all
> > > > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg47212.html
> > >
> > > Ummm... this was fwded from the ARIN list (I got it there first), it's
> > > hardly "serious
> > > policy debate". If it was, there would be a draft RFC making the
> > > rounds (which I haven't seen).
> > >
> > > As you can clearly see from this message, some in the RIR communities
> > > aren't happy with the /32,/48,/64,/128 IETF recommendations and are
> > > proposing changes to regional numbering policies to more closely match
> > > their requirements.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > IPv6 RIR Policy [was Re: IPv6 addresses really are scarce after
> > > all]
> > > > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg47527.html
> > > >
> > > > I was meant to write something up on it for someone, but never got a
> > > > round to it,
> > > > and the debate is still ongoing.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, and the debate is 99% in the RIR lists, after all they are the
> > > ones who make the policies. The IETF made architectural decisions. I
> > > don't see them changing this, especially since it is a general
> > > discussion list, and NOT a WG list.
> > >
> > >
> > > > but it is an interesting thread.
> > > >
> > > > a good and breif synopisis is:
> > > > >
> > > > > again, the fundamental problem here is that the RIRs are trying to
> > > > > second-guess IETF design decisions.
> > >
> > > The above is a good summary of the situation. However, it's not like
> > > some second guessing isn't in order in re: IPv6.
> > >
> > > The situation, however is much more complex than the above, which is
> > > what you might expect to see in an article in the media. I would
> > > suggest that policy makers need deep familiarity with the issues,
> > > which is why I have made sincere suggestions that more people on this
> > > list join the current debates on actual techno-policy in fora where
> > > they can actually make a difference.
> > >
> > > Milton.
> > > I'm not feigning, I actually do know more about IPv6 issues than most
> > > (but not all) on this list. I know more because I have been reading
> > > dozens of mailing list mails on the subject every day for many years,
> > > while you seem to have been reading articles in newspapers/magazines
> > > and blogs. I am certain that if you want to actually help distribute
> > > internet addresses, you have to participate in the forum that does
> > > just that. If you want to just talk about it, well, you are right,
> > > the IGF is the place to be.
> > >
> > > I read your blog religiously, in fact it's on my Google homepage. Of
> > > the 3 you mention, one is a link to the ISP column, (also available on
> > > ISOC website: http://isoc.org/educpillar/resources/), One is a link to
> > > an ARIN statement, and the other is an editorial piece on arstechnica,
> > > critical of the ARIN statement. While this is "publishing", it
> > > doesn't show that you understand the issues, it justs shows that you
> > > can make a hyperlink ;-)
> > >
> > > Parminder
> > > I think I actually asked for "right to development text" to be taken
> > > out of a statement, not "off the list".
> > >
> > > Regarding your comment on giving feedback to the technical policy
> > > folk, I suggest there is only one place to do this, and that is in the
> > > germaine technical policy fora. I am only "partisan" when it comes to
> > > retaining bottomuppity-ness, I am pretty much agnostic aboout the rest
> > > of your first reply.
> > >
> > > As to the second, I don't really know what "neo-liberal means (but it
> > > sounds bad when you say it). I have always been a "Minnesota
> > > knee-jerk liberal", in the Humphrey/Mondale/Wellstone tradition of my
> > > home state. I don't think it's the same tho.
> > >
> > > I DO know that if I want to connect a rural school or health clinic in
> > > a rural area here in Uganda, it's MUCH easier to first find a
> > > corporate entity in the area that needs connectivity, let them pay for
> > > the infrastructure, then hang the school/clinic off that.
> > >
> > > I don't know what you call the kind of person that does that, and I
> > > don't much care.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > McTim
> > > $ whois -h whois.afrinic.net mctim
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