[governance] Re: Comcast Blocks Some Internet Traffic

Carlos Afonso ca at rits.org.br
Wed Oct 24 08:02:12 EDT 2007


Avri,

Avri Doria wrote:
> 
> On 23 okt 2007, at 18.14, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:16:31PM -0400,
>>  Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote
>>  a message of 39 lines which said:
>>
>>> Is the diffserv protocol of the IETF, a violation of net neutrality?
>>> Is any use of QoS inherently bad?
>>
>> The diffserv protocol is a _tool_. As most tools, it can be used for a
>> lot of different things, some being bad. If its purpose is to reduce
>> my SIP bandwidth because my provider finds it endangers its selling of
>> traditional telephone services, yes, it is a violation of net
>> neutrality.
>>
> 
> 
> i agree.  especially because I expect you are buying best-effort 
> service, which has a well known meaning and expectation.
> 
> what happens i wonder if they start to sell a cheaper level of service 
> that includes the right for them to limit traffic they consider 
> detrimental to the business model (though of course it would be put in a 
> much smoother form of marketese).  would this be ok? or would it be an 
> infringement of some internet principle?
> 
> it is a question i have wavered on:
> 
> - sometimes i think they have a right to sell me anything and if i am 
> stupid  enough to buy, my loss.

Either stupid or you are a "trivial" user who just uses canonic Web and 
email ports... and in this case will never notice most of the rest might 
be under oversight of a packet sniffer/traffic shaper.

> 
> - sometime i think that they don't have a right to sell me poison just 
> because i am too poor to buy the real Internet.
> 

Yes! Although they do... ;)

bs

--c.a.


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