[governance] Re: Comcast Blocks Some Internet Traffic
Carlos Afonso
ca at rits.org.br
Wed Oct 24 08:02:12 EDT 2007
Avri,
Avri Doria wrote:
>
> On 23 okt 2007, at 18.14, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:16:31PM -0400,
>> Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote
>> a message of 39 lines which said:
>>
>>> Is the diffserv protocol of the IETF, a violation of net neutrality?
>>> Is any use of QoS inherently bad?
>>
>> The diffserv protocol is a _tool_. As most tools, it can be used for a
>> lot of different things, some being bad. If its purpose is to reduce
>> my SIP bandwidth because my provider finds it endangers its selling of
>> traditional telephone services, yes, it is a violation of net
>> neutrality.
>>
>
>
> i agree. especially because I expect you are buying best-effort
> service, which has a well known meaning and expectation.
>
> what happens i wonder if they start to sell a cheaper level of service
> that includes the right for them to limit traffic they consider
> detrimental to the business model (though of course it would be put in a
> much smoother form of marketese). would this be ok? or would it be an
> infringement of some internet principle?
>
> it is a question i have wavered on:
>
> - sometimes i think they have a right to sell me anything and if i am
> stupid enough to buy, my loss.
Either stupid or you are a "trivial" user who just uses canonic Web and
email ports... and in this case will never notice most of the rest might
be under oversight of a packet sniffer/traffic shaper.
>
> - sometime i think that they don't have a right to sell me poison just
> because i am too poor to buy the real Internet.
>
Yes! Although they do... ;)
bs
--c.a.
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