[WSIS CS-Plenary] April fool's day? Was Re: [governance] APC Statement as IGF II closes

Meryem Marzouki marzouki at ras.eu.org
Thu Nov 15 12:20:16 EST 2007


Hi Karen,

Le 15 nov. 07 à 17:37, karen banks a écrit :

>> If indeed  APC understanding is what you specified in your  
>> previous reply  ("irrespecive of how anyone might feel about the  
>> illegaility of  specific content, it is illegal - but 'harmful'  
>> content, is  essentially content that some interested group wishes  
>> to make illegal
>> - and the raod to that, is largely via self and co-regulatory schemes
>> - and often implemented by inappropraite parties.."), then may I   
>> suggest other wordings that you may or may not use:
>
> and yes, that is certainly my understanding of what several of us  
> are interested in pursuing.. but, i'd like to take a breath and  
> suggest that we use this topic to finetune exactly what it is, we  
> might focus on..  you know well meryem, the frenetic pace and  
> nature of these events, and it is easy for a word or phrase to be  
> inadvertantly used in a public document due to the hectic nature of  
> writing quickly etc..

Yes, of course I do know, and I don't have any doubt about APC's  
intentions.. That's the reason why I said that I couldn't believe  
this. And I said it twice:)

>
>> "WG on the impact of content regulation by technical and soft law   
>> measures on human rights and the rule of law"
>>
>> And this working group would actually be able to build on huge   
>> existing work.
>
> for now, we're going to remove that particular WG proposal  
> altogether - as you see we have another:

uh oh:)

> "WG on self and co-regulation in internet governance" (which is  
> more in line with what you're proposing)

Yes and no, but the good thing with this formulation is that it  
leaves entirely open the definition of this WG, its topics, etc. and  
it doesn't even take any a priori position on what this could/should  
-- or shouldn't be.

> and we may even fine tune that, using yours and others input..

Sure. On technical filtering, e.g., if everything goes well, a new  
recommendation and an explanatory report should be adopted soon by  
the Council of Europe on "measures to promote respect for freedom of  
expression and information with regard to Internet filters". Of  
course, there could still be some changes made, but the text as it  
has been prepared, discussed and delivered by the CoE group of  
specialists on human rights in the information society is quite good  
in my opinion. And I hope this would counterbalance, at least  
regarding the issue of technical filtering, the formerly adopted  
recommendation on "promoting freedom of expression and information in  
the new information and communications environment", against which  
EDRi (European Digital Rights) has campaigned, as you know (http:// 
www.edri.org/coerec200711).

> thanks meryem

thanks to you, Karen, for your understanding and quick reaction!

Best,
Meryem____________________________________________________________
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