[governance] IGP Alert: "Net Neutrality as GlobalPrinciple for Internet Governance"

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

That, Milton, was not offlist.

But since when has that stopped you spewing poison?  On circleid, or here
for that matter

Who the hell gave you tenure anyway?  Your so-called "project" is a joke,
and your entire strategy is based on the assumption that others will remain
collegial while you can continue to carry on as usual.

	srs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:23 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Lee McKnight
> Subject: RE: [governance] IGP Alert: "Net Neutrality as GlobalPrinciple
> for Internet Governance"
> 
> Off list
> 
> Lee, I am continually amazed by the stupidity of your public
> interventions. Let's agree to part ways vis a vis you and the IGP since
> you clearly have no interest in participating in a group effort.
> 
> The final straw here is not just your disagreement about NN but your
> complete lack of any attempt to even inform, much less include, IGP in
> your Caribbean initiative. It's ok if you are more interested in
> promoting your own small puddle of influence in Jamaica but don't
> pretend to be part of IGP at the same time.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee McKnight [mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:53 AM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; dan at musicunbound.com;
> narten at us.ibm.com
> > Subject: Re: [governance] IGP Alert: "Net Neutrality as
> GlobalPrinciple
> > for Internet Governance"
> >
> > Thomas,
> >
> > My point exactly, a 'principle' defined by exceptions and nuances in
> the
> > eye of the beholder seems perfect only for theological debates on how
> > many neutral angels can fit on the head of a pin.
> >
> > So it is not really a 'nice principle,' it's a trap set by Google
> > lobbyists all too many of you have fallen into. Again, nothing
> against
> > Google, love that search engine and gmail etc, but their spin-doctors,
> > are well, spin post-docs as I see how well they have spun many of you,
> > including my own esteemed colleagues ; ).
> >
> > I prefer "universal, open, equitable, and flexible access" to quote
> from
> > the Caribbean Internet Governance Policy Framework Draft Version 0.1,
> > October 2007, as a Global Principle.
> >
> > Go to
> > http://ctu.int/ctu/Projects/InternetGovernance/tabid/73/Default.aspx
> if
> > you wish to review the doc or post comments, perhaps explaining to
> > Caribbean governments why they really all would be better off talking
> of
> > network neutrality, when what they mean is universal, open, equitable
> > and flexible access as a shared policy principle for Internet
> > governance.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Prof. Lee W. McKnight
> > School of Information Studies
> > Syracuse University
> > +1-315-443-6891office
> > +1-315-278-4392 mobile
> > >>> narten at us.ibm.com 11/09/07 9:08 AM >>>
> > > I would only add to this that spam filters are best implemented
> with
> > end
> > > users being given maximum control over their settings.
> >
> > Nice principle, but when ISPs regularly complain > 80% of the email
> > they carry is spam, it costs an ISP $$ to process it and deliver it
> to
> > the "edges", only to be filtered there.
> >
> > Surely one can understand why they find it highly desirable to keep
> it
> > from entering their network in the first place.
> >
> > Thomas
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