[governance] Drop ALAC altogether??

[Ian Peter]

Vittorio stated

>A different question might be why do academic and civil rights groups 
>have to be split, part in the NCUC and part in the ALAC (and some 
>perhaps in both). That might make more sense.

I remain unconvinced at the necessity for both an ALAC and a NCUC in a
sensible and efficient structure for channeling what might effectively be
called relevant civil society input to a names and numbers organisation.

Alx added

>the NCUC (originally non-commercial domain-name holders, which we later
>expanded to represent non-commercial interest in generic domain names) is
>focused on generic domain names, whereas the ALAC covers all that ICANN
>does and may attract the general user, i.e. not only generic names but also
>ccTLD names, IP addresses, etc.

Historically relevant because of the forces at play and the insistence of
Esther Dyson, but in a greenfields situation would you ever come up with a
structure like that? I don't see great differentiation between those
interest areas and those likely to want to be involved.


Ian



-----Original Message-----
From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb at bertola.eu] 
Sent: 01 December 2007 13:12
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter
Subject: Re: [governance] Drop ALAC altogether??

Ian Peter ha scritto:
> Sorry to raise yet another heresy,
> 
> But why have ALAC at all when we have Non Commercial Users Constituency
and
> a Business Users Constituency? Don’t they cover all users who would get
> involved in ALAC?
> 
> I understand the historical reasons for ALAC, but if we are analyzing
> structure (rather than power bases we wish to maintain) why have an ALAC
and
> a NCUC? 

In addition to what Jacqueline already said, the viewpoint/interest of 
the average Internet user and the viewpoint/interest of the academic and 
NGO groups that make up the NCUC (and a good share of the ALSes as well) 
do not always coincide. In issues such as Whois, for example, we had in 
the At Large several people from consumer organizations and technical 
groups pushing for positions that are completely opposite to those of 
the NCUC and of the civil rights organizations, e.g. advocating full 
disclosure and authentication of whoever is behind a website, including 
individuals.

A different question might be why do academic and civil rights groups 
have to be split, part in the NCUC and part in the ALAC (and some 
perhaps in both). That might make more sense.
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