[governance] igc@ igf

William Drake drake at hei.unige.ch
Wed May 23 11:26:14 EDT 2007


Hi McTim,

You are referring to the procedural modalities statement that Parminder
made, which was approved by the 17 people here.  This did in fact "require a
very quick response" if the caucus was going to have anything to say on the
topic in time for it to matter, since it was one of the main things being
discussed in the room.  But more importantly, the statement almost entirely
comprised positions lifted directly from the document drafted by Vittorio
and adopted by the caucus on the list prior to the February consultation.
The latter was never delivered to the secretariat and hence not posted on
the IGF site, but Vittorio read it out at the time, and essentially what P
did was to read the relevant bits again, wrapped in more verbiage.  I don't
really understand how his stating positions that were adopted by the full
caucus online in February and never challenged since and that were then
adopted by the 17 people at the meeting here could be inappropriate.

What bits do you find objectionable, BTW?

Best,

BD


On 5/23/07 5:13 PM, "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> On 5/23/07, William Drake <drake at hei.unige.ch> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> <snip>
> 
>> 
>>>> Normally, whenever there is sufficient time for a statement to be
>>>> discussed and approved by the caucus as a whole, the decision
>>>> procedure outlined above will be required. However, there will be
>>>> occasions when members of the caucus will be attending meetings and
>>>> will be presented with the opportunity to make statements that
>>>> require a very quick response.
> 
> I don't think this qualifies as an "opportunity to make statements
> that  require a very quick response."
> 
> I think that it should have been discussed and agreed beforehand.
> 
> I think it was a short-circuit of our agreed process, and object
> strongly to it's inclusion.
> 
> It says to the caucus that if you attend a meeting, you can insert
> language that you want included, as long as it fits under #5 below.
> 
> I also don't think it passes criteria #2, if it did, we would have
> explicitly mentioned/included it in our statement.
> 
> /McTim
> 
> In these cases, while it is still
>>>> required that the caucus be informed of an upcoming statement and  its
>>>> contents as soon as possible the following rule may be applied  when
>>>> necessary:
>>>> 
>>>>    1.
>>>> 
>>>>       The coordinators will act as the official representatives of
>>>> the caucus and will be responsible for approving any statement that
>>>> cannot be discussed by the caucus within the time available.
>>>>    2.
>>>> 
>>>>       In the case of face-to-face meetings, they will also  coordinate
>>>> with the members of the IGC who are present. Any  statement should
>>>> reflect the assumed general thinking of the  caucus, rather than just
>>>> that of those members who are physically  present at the meeting.
>>>>    3.
>>>> 
>>>>       If neither of the IGC coordinators can be physically present  in
>>>> face-to-face meetings, they will delegate coordination to  another
>>>> participant of such events. This delegation should, if  possible, be
>>>> made before the meeting and with the advice of the  caucus.
>>>>    4.
>>>> 
>>>>       Statements and positions on behalf of the caucus will be
>>>> prepared and coordinated by the coordinators, or their delegate as
>>>> appropriate.
>>>>    5.
>>>> 
>>>>       Such statements will reflect the vision, objectives and basic
>>>> principles of Civil Society in general, and the IGC in particular.
>>>> Such statements will try to interpret, in good faith, the assumed
>>>> general thinking of the caucus, based on past discussions and
>>>> documents, and should not contradict the positions taken by the
>>>> caucus in the past.
>>>>    6.
>>>> 
>>>>       Such statements will be sent to the IGC as soon as possible,
>>>> preferably before being presented, but if that is impossible, then  as
>>>> soon after their presentation as possible.
>>>> 

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William J. Drake  drake at hei.unige.ch
Director, Project on the Information
  Revolution and Global Governance/PSIO
  Graduate Institute for International Studies
  Geneva, Switzerland
http://hei.unige.ch/psio/researchprojects/Drake.html
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