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Milton,

How can we help you meet the Grants Objectives?
After all, that’s what is important.

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Bertrand please give us an update:

Re:
… Bertrand de La Chapelle can fill us in on the expenditures’ of approximately
4.5 CHF [4,309,289 CHF / 3,538,062.32 USD] raised in the WSIS campaign. How &
Where the money was spent. What new programs did the funds develop? How are
they doing? What’s left in reserves?
 
Re: Contributions to the WSIS/ITU:
http://www.itu.int/wsis/funding/contributors1.html
http://www.itu.int/wsis/funding/contributors2.html 
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Thanks Veni,

For letting us know your things from your perspective.

Re:
> http://www.fordfound.org/grants_db/view_grant_detail.cfm?grant_id=33480 which
says Milton (IGP) got in fact $ 175,000.

Milton,

Would you please post or direct us to the grant-application itself, 
and comment of its 'objectives'.

Certainly you can understand our interest in the matter.
It’s important for us all to know the 'objective-goals' and how they are
budgeted to meet their criteria. Particularly so, we do not overlap the WSIS
campaign and its programs.

While were on the subject, perhaps Bertrand de La Chapelle can fill us in on
the expenditures’ of approximately 4.5 CHF [4,309,289 CHF / 3,538,062.32 USD]
raised in the WSIS campaign. How & Where the money was spent. What new programs
did the funds develop? How are they doing? What’s left in reserves?
 
Re: Contributions to the WSIS/ITU:
http://www.itu.int/wsis/funding/contributors1.html
http://www.itu.int/wsis/funding/contributors2.html 

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* Note sorry about the double post, 
I experience difficulty switching between Rt-2-Lf and Lt-2-Rt ,
and loose some paragraph ticking.



From: veni at veni.com
Subject: Milton Mueller and the $ 175,000

Hi.
It's not a big deal. The big deal is about the following:

On April 22nd I wrote....

2. There's no statement on the web site as to who is
funding this projects. Let's see the MIGP - one could
found a file
( http://osp.syr.edu/highlights/FiscalYear2006/FebruaryHighlig
http://osp.syr.edu/highlights/FiscalYear2006/FebruaryHighlig

where it says that Milton has received $ 87,500 from the Ford
Foundation for that
project, but nothing about the rest of the $ 170,000 rumored to
have been awarded
to the project only by the Ford, and nothing about other donors?

.... to which Milton said...

Whoa. There are no other donors. And there are no other funds. And here
you make it clear that you have descended to the level of unfounded
insinuations. You have even manufactured a false, completely invented
number ($170,000). This is something you made up, Veni. Please retract,
for the sake of your credibility

.... to which I responded with an e-mail from Robert Guerra. In the
meantime I also got an e-mail with this link:
http://www.fordfound.org/grants_db/view_grant_detail.cfm?gra
which says Milton got in fact $ 175,000, not $ 170,000. But since my
number is quite close to the real one, and I was blamed as a
manufacturer of a false, completely invented number ($ 170,000), I
felt I should come back to the list, and report where I got the
original number from - it was an e-mail from Robert Guerra. On the
Syracuse University web site the number is different - $ 87,500, so I
was just saying, again in my email from April 22nd, that I'd like to
know who has what interests in this whole IG process.

That's it. I was just setting the facts - who said what, who provided
the information, and when. Needless to say, I don't expect an
apology from Milton - it's probably my misunderstanding of English
language, and he actually meant that the number I've made up is not
exactly the number he got from the Ford (compare $ 170,000 to $
175,000, there's a substantial difference of about 3%, for which I
will punish myself with an epithalamia)

Veni


At 14:08 5/14/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Hey Ven/Milt,

Vin,
Pardon me for asking, curiosity has gotten hold of me.
What's the big-deal with IGP receiving grant money?

Milt,
Obviously there was an application to the Foundation,
What were its stated objectives?

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