[governance] RE: IGF workshops - more time is needed

[Parminder]

> Ok, I will suggest a two weeks extension. Still I think finding
> co-sponsors for workshops is more important at this stage than
> confirming panelists.
> jeanette

Thanks. Parminder 

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Parminder Jeet Singh
IT for Change, Bangalore
Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities 
Tel: (+91-80) 2665 4134, 2653 6890
Fax: (+91-80) 4146 1055
www.ITforChange.net 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:07 AM
> To: Parminder
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Adam Peake'; 'Ken Lohento'; 'Qusai Al-
> Shatti'; robin at ipjustice.org
> Subject: Re: IGF workshops - more time is needed
> 
> 
> 
> Parminder wrote:
> >> Hi, the rationale for the deadline end of July is to give enough time
> >> for asking speakers or panelists. The MAG thought that well-known
> >> experts are difficult to get and need to be asked as early as possible.
> >> jeanette
> >
> > Jeanette
> >
> > I accept the rationale, but as I put it, getting partners take time. And
> I
> > argued that it takes more time operating from a developing country
> context -
> > because of the nature of local private sector (non) participation,
> little
> > linkages with the mostly-developed countries based private sector which
> does
> > attend these forums,   and wariness of governments to sign on
> > co-sponsorship. That's a real problem. And it takes more time to get new
> > players and partners in - which I am sure is what IGF will like to have.
> So,
> > is it possible we can do a 2 week extension, even if only on terms
> mentioned
> > by karen. And after all getting speakers for these workshops is the job
> or
> > workshop organizers. MAG and IGF secretariat can go ahead with choosing
> > speakers for main sessions.
> 
> Ok, I will suggest a two weeks extension. Still I think finding
> co-sponsors for workshops is more important at this stage than
> confirming panelists.
> jeanette
> >
> >
> > I re-assert that these are important 'participation' issues, and are
> also
> > real, because we are facing it right now.
> >
> > Parminder
> > ________________________________________________
> > Parminder Jeet Singh
> > IT for Change, Bangalore
> > Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities
> > Tel: (+91-80) 2665 4134, 2653 6890
> > Fax: (+91-80) 4146 1055
> > www.ITforChange.net
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:05 PM
> >> To: Parminder
> >> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Adam Peake'; 'Ken Lohento'; 'Qusai Al-
> >> Shatti'; robin at ipjustice.org
> >> Subject: Re: IGF workshops - more time is needed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Parminder wrote:
> >>> Adam (and other CS members of the MAG)
> >>>
> >>> I think that the time given for submitting proposals is too little,
> >>> especially when one has to get partners from different stakeholder
> >> groups,
> >>> which would mean first seeking partners, then collaborating on
> proposal
> >> text
> >>> and so on. I think there is no need to have people rush it, by giving
> >> around
> >>> 3 weeks to bring full proposals to the table. Even if this serves to
> >> keep
> >>> the number of workshops manageable - though I am not alleging that is
> >> the
> >>> motive here.
> >> Hi, the rationale for the deadline end of July is to give enough time
> >> for asking speakers or panelists. The MAG thought that well-known
> >> experts are difficult to get and need to be asked as early as possible.
> >> jeanette
> >>
> >>> This works against new groups, and new partnerships, organizing
> >> workshops.
> >>> Most CS groups are just about learning about the workshop call and
> even
> >> in
> >>> this age of digital communications - these calls take time in moving
> >> away
> >>> from the centre towards relative peripheries. I just now saw the call
> >> for
> >>> IGF workshops put out in the WSIS Disability Causus, inviting ideas.
> >> What
> >>> we will have, in such short time, is the usual suspects in usual
> >>> combinations, and that's really against the main principles and ideals
> >> of
> >>> IGF. The idea is to get different kinds of people in, and different
> >> kinds
> >>> talking to each other (as Nitin keeps saying). This central objective
> is
> >>> defeated by giving such a short notice for completing workshop
> >> proposals.
> >>> This also works against less- resourced and less- connected people and
> >>> groups.
> >>>
> >>> I think we should move the deadline at least to July 15th. I see no
> >> great
> >>> reason for sticking to this timeline. I request CS MAG members to
> >>> communicate this request to the MAG and the secretariat. Others may
> also
> >>> give their views on this, and if others agree, it can be communicated
> on
> >>> behalf of 'some CS members'.
> >>>
> >>> This appeal comes directly from the problems being faced with some CS
> >> groups
> >>> in which I am involved, in terms of the required time, in reaching out
> >> to
> >>> new partners for some activities that we want to organize. And when I
> >>> thought of it I could see that most/many CS groups must be facing this
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>> Now, if the number of workshops goes beyond what can be handled
> >>> logistically, we will need to come out with some solutions for that.
> But
> >> for
> >>> the present lets open up the process more, in terms of the time
> >> available to
> >>> respond with full proposals for organizing these workshops. This will
> >> both
> >>> improve participation, and the diversity of partnerships of the
> >> workshops.
> >>> Parminder
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________________________
> >>> Parminder Jeet Singh
> >>> IT for Change, Bangalore
> >>> Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities
> >>> Tel: (+91-80) 2665 4134, 2653 6890
> >>> Fax: (+91-80) 4146 1055
> >>> www.ITforChange.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >

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