[governance] Desirable vs undue commercial and government involvement

[Dan Krimm]

Ronda,

Can you explain in more detail exactly how science might be expected to
solve the problems at hand?  How do you define the problems in the first
place, and what possible solutions are there to those problems?

If the problem is indeed technological, then the solution is technological
(and possibly also political and commercial, if the technological solution
impacts government and markets).  But if the problem is inherently
political/commercial then certainly the solution must involve
politics/commerce.

In the US, the delays in widespread deployment of broadband Internet access
are largely political and commercial in origin.  Technologically it is
fairly well understood, as we have many better examples from around the
rest of the world at this time.

I would suggest that the burden of proof is on you to show why the problems
are technological in nature, and why political and commercial issues do not
have a significant impact.

Dan



At 11:26 AM -0400 7/23/07, Ronda Hauben wrote:
>The discussion originated in referring to what is happening in Africa in
>the attempts to develop the infrastructure for the Internet in different
>countries like Rwanda and on the African continent.
>
>I am suggesting that this is a scientific problem, not a problem of
>getting enough commercial investment, which is how the problem seems to be
>approached in the few things I have seen regarding it.
>
>So its not only as you say here what is the role for the commercial entity
>and for government, but the question of whether we can agree its a
>scientific problem and that creating the proper environment to solve such
>a problem is where the role of government and the commercial sector need
>to be determined.
>
>Thanks for trying to clarify.
>
>Ronda
>
>
>On 7/23/07, Norbert Bollow <<mailto:nb at bollow.ch>nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>
>Ronda Hauben <<mailto:ronda.netizen at gmail.com>ronda.netizen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> During the early development of the Internet there was an AUP - an
>> Acceptible Use Policy.
>>
>> This was a means of restricting commercial participation and political
>> pressure.
>
>Obviously applying the same kind of AUP to today's internet is neither
>feasible nor desirable.
>
>However, let's try to figure out what kinds of commercial participation
>and government involvements are desirable and what kinds should not be
>considered acceptable.
>
>When we have clarity about all that, we can discuss possible measures
>for increasing that which is desirable and decreasing that which should
>not be considered acceptable.
>
>Gruss,
>Norbert.
>
>
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