[governance] RE: [NA-Discuss] ALAC and NCUC

[Jeanette Hofmann]

Hi Jacqueline, if I am not mistaken your example assumes that viewpoints 
correlate with regional origins. I am not sure this is often the case. 
Also, voting is just one form of having a say. In most cases, 
participation might simply mean to offer one's opinion. On the other 
hand, I am all in favor of protecting minorities. Any ideas?
jeanette

Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
> A family could represent a grouping of individual users... 
> I don't think that an individual should HAVE to join an organization in
> order to have a say in processes or policy, but we do need to think how to
> practically organize it... for example, a place where there are 10 people
> interested in participating with a particular viewpoint could easily on the
> basis of 1 person 1 vote be drowned out by 100,000 from a place that is more
> developed wrt the Internet, and thus has more "members". But the viewpoint
> of the 10 needs to be heard as well. So how do we organize to get
> individuals involved as well as groupings of individuals but still allowing
> all viewpoints to come through?
> Jacqueline
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
> Subject: Re: [governance] RE: [NA-Discuss] ALAC and NCUC
> 
> 
> 
>> On the principle that silence is consent, if my argument is valid then
>> could I suggest that the notion of "individual internet user" in fact is
>> more or less without content as it could either mean anyone, since
>> anyone could be an anonymous cybercafe or cell phone Internet surfer (or
>> no one in particular--who would know or could make any judgements in
>> this regard);  or it should necessarily include some sorts of collective
>> groupings i.e. families, communities etc. 
> 
> 
> The notion of individual users matters a lot in the context of 
> representation. It is not the same if individuals have a right to 
> participate in ICANN or if they need to join an organization such as an 
> ISOC chapter to have a say.
> 
> I don't understand how a family could form an individual user. Are you 
> perhaps confusing users with email accounts?
> 
> jeanette
> 
> 
> 
> (individuals as collectives
>> hmmm...-and then who speaks for them and how are the "interests" of
>> these collectives to be represented, as collectives or as collections of
>> individuals etc.etc.).
>>
>> In a global environment where on the one hand Internet "use" is becoming
>> more or less pervasive and on the other where the notion of who or what
>> constitutes "the individual" is highly culturally (and even politically)
>> determined, could I humbly suggest that some other mode of delineating
>> participation in this aspect of Internet governance be formulated.
>>
>> MG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:na-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jacob
>> Malthouse
>> Sent: April 19, 2007 6:36 AM
>> To: NA Discuss
>> Subject: [NA-Discuss] ALAC and NCUC
>>
>>
>> From: http://alac.icann.org/
>> ICANN's At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is responsible for  
>> considering and providing advice on the activities of the Internet  
>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), as they relate to  
>> the interests of individual Internet users (the "At-Large"  
>> community). ICANN, as a private sector, non-profit corporation with  
>> technical management responsibilities for the Internet's domain name  
>> and address system, will rely on the ALAC and its supporting  
>> infrastructure (At-Large groups all over the world) to involve and  
>> represent in ICANN a broad set of individual user interests.
>>
>> From: http://www.ncdnhc.org/
>> The Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC) is the home for civil  
>> society organizations in ICANN's Generic Names Supporting  
>> Organization (GNSO). With real voting power in ICANN, it develops and  
>> supports Internet policies that favor noncommercial communication and  
>> activity on the Internet, and it participates in the selection of  
>> ICANN Board members.
>>
>>
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