[governance] .xxx. igc and igf

[Milton Mueller]

Bill and Jeremy:

>>> Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au 4/17/2007 4:58 AM >>>
>but surely our energies are better expended in 
>reforming the IGF than in resigning ourselves to its failure and 
>starting from scratch.

True, of course I am not calling for starting from scratch. The IGF is
a valuable forum for advocacy and a "bully pulpit" to use an American
slang. I am not giving up on it and I hope my comments are not being
interpreted that way. But the severe limits being placed on its agenda
are a source of concern, especially when key actors in ICANN civil
society (i.e., Vittorio) seem to be abandoning the opportunity to
attempt to reform ICANN from an IGF-based platform. 

And to address Bill's comments:

>> Can you tell me why
>> holding a conference and chatting with ourselves is such a
brilliant
>> solution, and what problem it is a solution to?
>
>No I cannot, which speaks precisely to how such any such 
>processes end up after they get run through the wringer of 
>power and divided interests.

Ok, so we see the situation in similar ways

>The forum can still be useful to the extent that dialogue, 
>collective learning, and networking are useful.
>Whether it can do more than that is obviously more than 
>unclear.

Again, we are in fundamental agreement. 

My frustration comes from your attacks on a Framework Convention as a
way of moving forward when no better alternatives are offered. 
 

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