[governance] Where are we going?

[Raul Echeberria]

Robin:

I was commenting Milton's email.
He doesn't accept any kind of "intervention" in 
an economic activity. It is what he says.
His positions is very liberal, and so, he is 
analaysing everything from this perspective.

At least in Latinamerica, it is very uncommon 
that organizatios of civil socieyt hold this kind 
of ultra (or extreme) liberal positions.
What this debate shows is that there is not a 
common view in civil society regarding this 
point. It is difficult to criticize the 
individuals that voted in ICANN Board (note that 
I said individuals, because we are talking about 
the positions of the Directors who voted against 
or in favor, and not about ICANN as an 
institution) when civil society is not able to have a common view.

In my perspective, this debate is not about 
freedom of expression, as many other colleagues 
have already pointed out. It is about  freedom in 
the Internet market, as Milton said in the email 
that I commented, and, I guess, this is not an 
issue that civil society organizations in 
developing countries are very worried about. May 
be I am wrong, but this is my perception.
IMHO this is a very US (or most developed and 
liberal countries) centric view. Yes, the 
difference between north and south (to be very 
generic) are also seen sometimes in civil society positions.

Raúl


At 08:33 p.m. 08/04/2007, Robin Gross wrote:
>I don't understand what is meant below by "ultra 
>liberal" but it seems to imply "extreme".
>
>But the more "radical" view, in my opinion, is 
>that one community should be able to prevent the 
>lawful speech of another community.  That is the 
>position which blatantly diverts from centuries 
>of freedom of expression jurisprudence, most 
>notably Art. 19 of the UN Universal Declaration 
>of Human Rights (and national protections like the US Constitution).
>Why should legal standards for freedom of 
>expression be violated in the ICANN context?
>
>Robin
>
>
>Raul Echeberria wrote:
>
>>At 11:56 a.m. 08/04/2007, Milton Mueller wrote:
>>
>>>Izumi:
>>>You said:
>>>
>>>"...a [new GTLD proposal] should be put in place
>>>only when there is a strong consensus by the community."
>>>
>>>Please conduct the following thought experiment. Substitute for the
>>>word "new gTLD proposal" any other internet business in your statement.
>>>Then you will understand why I am horrified by the attitude you are
>>>expressing.
>>
>>
>>
>>It is very consistent with your ultra liberal position.
>>Nobody can say that you are not coherent.
>>
>>
>>Raúl
>>
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